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malachite green

Magpie - 30-10-2010 at 13:53

This report tells of my adventures making malachite green (MG) following the procedure of Brewster, circa 1962. This was a small scale experiment using 4mL each of benzaldehyde and N,N-dimethylaniline (NDA). Also required was 3g of PbO2. All of these reagents were homemade.

The benzaldehyde and NDA, along with 3g of anhydrous ZnCl2 were placed in the bottom of a 250mL RBF and heated to 130-140C for 10 minutes. This formed the leuco base of MG, a gummy mass that just sat glued to the bottom of the RBF. Then 150mL of water was added and I set up for direct steam distillation to remove the residual benzaldehyde and NDA. This is where the misadventure began.

Because of the gummy leuco base on the bottom, heat transfer was bad and I had a surge into the condenser. I turned off the heat and decided to (1) add a Claisen head, and (2) add a stir bar for magnetic stirring. I removed the glass stopper in the top of the stillhead. Now being impatient I did not let it cool down properly: I just dropped the stirbar down the hatch. This resulted in a violent discharge of superheat with some leuco base in water shooting out the port all over the place. So a lot of things got spattered green, especially once the leuco base had gotten oxidized to the deep blue-green of malachite.

Eventually I continued with the synthesis and only experienced one more surge, and it never made it to the condenser.

So I made about 200mL of a water solution with about 2g of dissolved chloride salt of malachite green. This can be seen in the test tube on the right in the picture below. Next to it is a 1:10,000 dilution, and on the end is malachite green in conc HCl where it turns yellow at pH<2.

Entropy will especially get a chuckle out of this as the opening paragraph of the procedure tells how you needn't spill so much as a drop. It's a good thing that Brewster is probably gone to his reward or I would be required to report to a University in Kansas for retraining.





leuco base.JPG - 39kBsteam distillation.JPG - 49kBmalachite green.JPG - 39kBmalachite colors.JPG - 36kB

entropy51 - 30-10-2010 at 14:00

When you said you were making dimethylaniline, I could immediately visualize the mutli-colored palette on the roof of your fume hood.

I knew a chemist who once said that anyone who thought he wasn't being exposed to chemicals had never synthesized a dye. It soon becomes apparent that everything you weigh, pour, filter, evaporate or whatever gets on everything in the lab.

Magpie - 30-10-2010 at 14:05

Quote: Originally posted by entropy51  

I knew a chemist who once said that anyone who thought he wasn't being exposed to chemicals had never synthesized a dye. It soon becomes apparent that everything you weigh, pour, filter, evaporate or whatever gets on everything in the lab.


Amen.

RiP057 - 30-10-2010 at 17:46

Quote: Originally posted by entropy51  

I knew a chemist who once said that anyone who thought he wasn't being exposed to chemicals had never synthesized a dye. It soon becomes apparent that everything you weigh, pour, filter, evaporate or whatever gets on everything in the lab.


hear here again

after working in the lab go to a mirror and turn on a black light... everytime I can see the ring of my goggles cause all of the indoles would luminesce and they were everywhere that wasnt protected

and sorry nico no references.... :P

benzylchloride1 - 2-11-2010 at 15:11

Interesting, I have not prepared any triphenylmethane type dyes, but my experience with azo dyes verifies this statement, the stuff gets everywhere. I once coupled 2-naphthol with diazotized sulfanilic acid to produce the azo dye which was subsequently converted to 1,2-naphthoquinone. Needless to say, my hands and my fume hood were red in color after the experiment.

Sandmeyer - 2-11-2010 at 15:44

There is a really easy solution - wear gloves and don't be sloppy...