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ketonic decarboxylation of succinic acid

John paul III - 14-5-2019 at 11:17

I know that succinic dialdehyde is avaible to be purchased online, but im interested if it could by synthesized by ketonic decarboxylation of succinic acid (by heat, base catalysed) or would it result in a cyclic monoaldehyde (ketone) ?

[Edited on 14-5-2019 by John paul III]

Pumukli - 14-5-2019 at 11:43

I doubt it.
I never heard about succinic acid as substrate in such reactions. I think adipic acid is the first alpha-omega-dicarboxylic acid which yields something useful (cyclopentanone) besides tar under such circumstances.
Succinic wont cyclize, too short a chain, probably too much strain.