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Ammonium oxalate decomposition

Bedlasky - 7-7-2019 at 04:50

Hi.

I decided to let evaporate some water from ammonium oxalate solution. I heated up and after 20 minut or so I realized that ammonium oxalate probably decomposed. I read that first decompose to oxamide and then to CO and CO2. I didn't see any bubbles but I am not sure - did in temperatures bellow 100°C released carbon monoxide gas?

Tsjerk - 7-7-2019 at 07:32

Why do you think it decomposed? It is stable up to 155.

https://dacemirror.sci-hub.tw/journal-article/242aa518bc0e23...

fusso - 7-7-2019 at 10:21

I tried making and boiling such solution indoors. I didnt feel uncomfortable or die from that.

[Edited on 190707 by fusso]

Bedlasky - 7-7-2019 at 10:22

For example:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001021...

http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Ammonium_oxal...

Tsjerk - 7-7-2019 at 12:57

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Did you read the sciencedirect article? It actually says the anhydrous salt decomposes at 155. The SM wiki is wrong as many of them are.


Bedlasky - 8-7-2019 at 12:16

Sciencedirect article says that decomposition starts on 105°C.

Tsjerk - 8-7-2019 at 13:02

No it doesn't, it says it loses water at 105, the anhydrous salt is stable up to 155.

Second reference: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1151-2916.1971....

Edit: next time: copy the DOI next to the abstract you see, go to sci-hub.tw and read the full length article. You didn't even had to read the full-length article as the answer is in the introduction.

[Edited on 8-7-2019 by Tsjerk]