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Methanesulfonic acid from sodium cocoyl isethionate

clearly_not_atara - 14-12-2019 at 09:39

Sodium cocoyl isethionate is available as a bulk powder for the new trend of homemade soap makers. Lucky for us, isethionates have excellent safety and cleaning properties which means they’ll probably stick around.

The ester linkage is attacked by alkali, and this reaction is easy to carry out because the surfactant is highly soluble in water. Reflux is not a good idea because soap is foamy but holding at 90 C for a few hours should yield a solution of isethionate.

Oxidizing isethionate with dichromate or permanganate should take it all the way to the carboxylate, which, having an alpha-EWG, should spontaneously decarboxylate under acidic conditions.

The oxidation will not affect the lipid fraction from hydrolysis and is ideally carried out under alkaline conditions to ensure it doesn’t stop at the aldehyde. So hydrolysis and oxidation can probably be performed in one pot.

methanesulfonic acid synthesis

Nitrous2000 - 14-10-2022 at 13:30

anyone try this?
is it a viable route to methanesulfonic acid?
Nitrous

Endo - 18-10-2022 at 12:47

Nitrous,

Looks to me like the isethionate esters are all 'ethane' sulfonates. Hydrolysis of the ester linkage would yield you a ethane sulfonate which is not the critter you are looking for.

Good Luck!

clearly_not_atara - 18-10-2022 at 18:26

Hey, give past me more credit than that. You lose one carbon atom to the decarboxylation. The hydrolysis product is 2-hydroxyethyl sulfonic acid. But the negative charge on the sulfonate may interfere with hydrolysis.

Sigmatropic - 18-10-2022 at 19:22

I reckon oxidizing taurine with some form of bleach would be a better route to sulfoacetic acid.

Nitrous2000 - 19-10-2022 at 06:53

thanks folks,
As usual, too good to be true... is...tgtbt

Lionel Spanner - 21-10-2022 at 10:20

Plus there is the possibility of the sulphonic acid group forming some kind of complex with the chromium or manganese, complicating the reaction.