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Mercury selenite

vano - 11-1-2021 at 03:30

Hi. Today i made mercury selenite, but it has unusual colour. I do not know exactly because I do not have much information. My selenite had exactly that color when it precipitated. If I filtered it and dried it in air, it would be exactly like that, but I evaporated water from the solution and it got such a color. I think it isnt mercury oxide or selenide, because that compounds have different colours. That's why I think it did not decomposed.

I used mercury bromide and sodium selenite, i made it from bicarbonate and acid. It was white. It did not contain any selenium particles.

Black is selenide.
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Boffis - 11-1-2021 at 06:59

Hi Vano, Many years ago I acquired a collection of mercury compounds from a guy who had worked on them in the 1950's at one of the north of England universities. Looking at my database there should be a small jar of mercury II selenite, tellurite and tellurate but no selenate. Would you like me to dig them out and send you some photos?

I was wondering about the HgO too. Sometimes if it contains a little Hg+ when reacted with certain reagents causes the separation of metallic mercury in certain reactions as the Hg+ disproportionates into Hg + Hg2+. I wonder if small amounts of Hg2Br2 in your mercury II bromide could have the same affect. Also mercury has an insane affinity for free selenium and you mention a little free selenium being present in the sodium selenite so maybe you have got a little Hg selenide forming too. A very small amount will go a long way to darken you product.

vano - 11-1-2021 at 07:47

I will be very grateful if you send me the photos. I encountered a similar problem with manganese, but checked the color of all other metallic selenite and it turned out to be correct.

I do not think it is characterized by thermochromism, but I have used the same acid at other times. I also made scandium selenite which is white in color, if the acid was contaminated then it would also have color. But the compounds I use are very pure. I hate contaminated compounds.

Bedlasky - 11-1-2021 at 09:04

Did you dry it at room temperature or at higher temperature? This can change amount of water of hydratation in your compound, which can change its colour. Look at Sb2S3 - hydrous is orange, anhydrous black. Or CoCl2 - hexahydrate is red, dihydrate violet, anhydrous blue. CuSO4 - pentahydrate blue, anhydrous white. Etc.

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vano - 11-1-2021 at 09:11

Maybe it is anhydrous. But the strange thing is that the compound itself changed color in solution when boiled.

Bedlasky - 11-1-2021 at 10:00

It is possible.

Here is good example - NiSO4. This is what english wiki says about its hydrates:

The common tetragonal hexahydrate crystallizes from aqueous solution between 30.7 and 53.8 °C. Below these temperatures, a heptahydrate crystallises, and above these temperatures an orthorhombic hexahydrate forms.

vano - 11-1-2021 at 11:00

It is clear. In short it is really selenite.

Bedlasky - 11-1-2021 at 12:58

Quote: Originally posted by vano  
It is clear. In short it is really selenite.


This is just hypothesis, I am not sure if this caused change of colour of your product. Try it again at room temperature, if your product have the same colour or different.

Boffis - 11-1-2021 at 13:16

Well, this is what my samples look like: mercury selenite, tellurite and tellurate,

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vano - 12-1-2021 at 01:52

I will prepare again and dry at room temperature.

Thank you Boffis. Tellurate is very beautiful. Some monovalent mercury compounds have a similar color.