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Oxalatonickelate

vano - 31-1-2021 at 05:54

Hi. This is a Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalatonickelate. There are quite interesting compounds, especially cobalt, manganese and cadmium. But nothing is written about their synthesis. I'm doing sodium salt now, but I do not think it will come out. what do you think?

valeg96 - 31-1-2021 at 06:13

I'm skeptical. There are dozens of articles by a chemist called N. Deb that, in my opinion, are also a good example of poor publishing standards. I myself dowloaded around 19 of them where he prepares so called "mixed oxalates" of the formula M[M(Ox)2] and none of them contains an actual procedure, they just keep referencing to other articles of the same author without a definite procedure, just "mix two solutions".

I've tried a couple syntheses and nothing decent comes out. If you want a textbook example of lousy research, this is it.

In the file names Co,Ni indicates that it's the nickeloxalate, cobalt salt. But they are basically copy-pasted, so you just need to download one of them.


Attachment: Oxalate Ni,Ni Deb 1999.pdf (371kB)
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Attachment: Oxalate Co,Ni Cd,Ni Deb 1999.pdf (92kB)
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Attachment: Oxalate Ca,Ca Deb 1996.pdf (402kB)
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Attachment: Oxalate K,Ni Narsimhulu 2015.pdf (1.4MB)
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Attachment: Oxalato Cu,Cu Deb 1988.pdf (478kB)
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Attachment: Oxalate Cd,Co Deb 2003.pdf (146kB)
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Attachment: Oxalate Co,Co Deb 1987.pdf (339kB)
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[Edited on 31-1-2021 by valeg96]

vano - 31-1-2021 at 06:24

I downloaded all the files, but unfortunately none opened.

[Edited on 31-1-2021 by vano]

valeg96 - 31-1-2021 at 06:33

Weird, they work fine with me... Just search on Scholar "Deb oxalato decomposition" and you will find a lot of them.

vano - 31-1-2021 at 07:14

Thank you Valeg.

[Edited on 31-1-2021 by vano]

DraconicAcid - 31-1-2021 at 10:09

I've never even managed to make sodium bis(oxalato)nickelate- I just get nickel oxalate precipitating out, and refusing to do anything else.

Sodium and potassium bis(oxalato)cuprate, on the other hand, are very easy to make, and form nice crystals.

valeg96 - 1-2-2021 at 00:45

Exactly as you said, DraconicAcid. I tried a couple of those "procedures" by Deb but I think all that comes out is the plain metal oxalate. Lousy publications imo