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Sourcing affordable bleed tubes, and ptfe adapters?

smaerd - 11-3-2011 at 10:33

Bleed tubes essentially are glass capillaries with a closed-ish tip right? I'm making the assumption that they made out of borosilicate glass and flint glass wouldn't sustain? I really only need one for general vacuum distillation needs. Can't find them on-line unless they're in a kit or from the big name suppliers(aldrich, etc).

Now is there a good reason why 24/40 PTFE bleed-tube/thermometer adapters are $50+? Are there any cheaper alternatives or sources? I'm hoping I've been looking in the wrong places.

Either way I can't afford either of these items currently but it'd be nice to concoct a game-plan for when I can. Thanks for any advice.

DJF90 - 11-3-2011 at 10:44

Use a disposable glass pipette with the tip drawn out a little. You'll notice it fits nicely through a thermometer adaptor. Attach a short length of rubber tubing and a hofmann clamp to adjust rate of ebulliation.

smaerd - 11-3-2011 at 10:46

Excellent suggestion thank you.

Magpie - 11-3-2011 at 11:55

If the disposable pipet is not long enough then use a piece of glass tubing that fits your adapter, like 6 or 7mm tubing. Using a bunsen burner draw out a fine tip then cut off the excess at the tip. Then, cutoff the other end as necessary to give you the exact length you want.

I also use a small piece of rubber tubing with a Hofmann clamp.

smaerd - 11-3-2011 at 12:20

Now to find a cheap PTFE adapter.

entropy51 - 11-3-2011 at 12:59

If you have a magnetic stirrer, you don't need a bleed tube to prevent bumping during vacuum distillations.

If you don't have a magnetic stirrer, by all means get one.

smaerd - 11-3-2011 at 13:07

So you can use stirring only? I thought I read somewhere that you needed stirring and a bleed tube. It must have said 'or'. This changes everything. Thanks entropy51, I have a nice kick back mag stirrer ready for just the occasion :).

entropy51 - 11-3-2011 at 13:12

Stirring alone works almost every time. The stirring should be fairly rapid. If the distillation foams so badly that stirring won't work, then a bleed tube probably won't help either. I posted an article from J Chem Ed about this in another thread not too long ago. Here is the link to it:
Quote: Originally posted by entropy51  
Magnetic Stirring Promotes Smooth Boiling


[Edited on 11-3-2011 by entropy51]