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Didecyldimethylammonium chloride

Random - 2-4-2011 at 03:34

I found some Didecyldimethylammonium chloride and I am not sure what could I do with it. Does someone know interesting reactions with that? Maybe to make some interesting precursor?

Or if nothing else is there a way to make decanol from that?

By the way, is this stuff very caustic? I think some got on my skin, but I washed it with some soap.

UnintentionalChaos - 2-4-2011 at 03:46

It's a cationic surfactacant, so no, it's not very caustic. I'd figure that PTC is pretty much the limit of it's uses, but treating with moist silver oxide and then heating will expel 1-decene and give dimethyldecylamine (Hofmann Elimination). If you're determinated to wring more 1-decene out, you could generate the N-oxide with H2O2 (see http://orgsynth.org/orgsyn/pdfs/CV4P0612.pdf) and heat to expel dimethylhydroxylamine (Cope reaction)

You might be able to swap the anion for something more interesting, much like tetrabutylammonium is used to carry things like fluoride and oxone into organic phases.

[Edited on 4-2-11 by UnintentionalChaos]

Random - 2-4-2011 at 10:51

What do you mean by carrying oxone into organic phase? You mean replacing one group like OH with oxime?

Is there something interesting to do with 1-decene and dimethyldecylamine? Maybe some smelly isocyanide could be made :D