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Crystal structure of an unknown sodium acetate

SnailsAttack - 10-6-2025 at 20:07

Attached to this thread are photographs of an unknown salt produced by liquifying a ~1:1 mixture of sodium acetate trihydrate (NaCH₃COO·3H₂O) and glacial vinegar over low heat and allowing it to cool.

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Pictured above is the structure of normal sodium acetate trihydrate.

Unlike the prismatic crystals produced by evaporation of a sodium acetate solution at room temperature, these crystals are cubic and greatly resemble sodium chloride.

Their identity is currently unknown, but could either be anhydrous sodium acetate (NaCH₃COO) or a sodium-hydrogen acetate cocrystal (NaHₓ(CH₃COO)ₓ₊₁·nH₂O), where 'x' is probably 1 but possibly 2 and 'n' is an unknown positive integer.

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Precipitates - 11-6-2025 at 01:34

Perhaps sodium diacetate:

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Sulaiman - 11-6-2025 at 04:43


Precipitates - 12-6-2025 at 00:44

Sorry, here's the article title and DOI:

Crystal structures of some acid salts of monobasic acids. Part XVII. Structure of sodium hydrogen diacetate, redetermined by neutron diffraction
https://doi.org/10.1039/P29750000015

RSC Publishing webpage:
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1975/p2/p2975...

Sci-Hub link (for those who can access):
https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1039/P29750000015

SnailsAttack - 19-6-2025 at 07:45

Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
I was unable to ppen the pdf file above
It opens fine for me.
Quote: Originally posted by Precipitates  
Crystal structures of some acid salts of monobasic acids. Part XVII. Structure of sodium hydrogen diacetate, redetermined by neutron diffraction
https://doi.org/10.1039/P29750000015
yeesh, it's strange to think that sometimes i feel like i'm pissing into the wind. There's years of research in this article and it's completely inscrutable. However, it does mention that the 1:1 cocrystal of sodium acetate and acetic acid have a cubic habit and tend to grow quite large, which lends pretty good evidence to the identity of the crystals I photographed.