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Ni + HNO3 = something red?

moviez - 12-11-2025 at 20:36

Hi folks, I’m trying to make a small amount of Nickel nitrate and I reacted a few grams of nickel strips with 35% HNO3 solution (azeotrope HNO3 : H2O =1:1). To my surprise it ended up with a brick red solution (see picture).

The nickel is battery-grade (>99% per manufacturer but I’m not sure now). They attract to magnets well. Nitric acid is from JSP (I’ve used some from the same bottle before, and there was no issue).

I’ve tried a few things but they don’t make sense so far. I’ve boiled the solution to drive off dissolved NO2, and diluted the solution with more water, but the solution remains red.

I still have a few things to try:
(1) add a small amount of H2O2
(2) perform qualitative identification tests such as Prussian blue test for iron and see what other potential metals are there
(3) repeat this experiment again with even more diluted nitric acid

I’m wondering if anyone had seen this before? Even if my starting materials aren’t as pure as they advertised, it shouldn’t be this bad. Any inputs are highly appreciated.

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[Edited on 13-11-2025 by moviez]

moviez - 12-11-2025 at 20:47

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Radiums Lab - 12-11-2025 at 21:42

I think this Fe+3 impurities. As you know your solution should end up in an emerald green colour.

Radiums Lab - 12-11-2025 at 21:46

This has a less chance but you might have Co nitrate too which is magenta in colour.

moviez - 12-11-2025 at 23:33

Quote: Originally posted by Radiums Lab  
I think this Fe+3 impurities. As you know your solution should end up in an emerald green colour.


My first thought was iron impurities as well. I’ll do some confirmatory tests and update here.

The chance of cobalt impurity is low since cobalt is much more expensive than nickel, and they usually don’t come in the same ores. But I’ll check cobalt as well.

Deathunter88 - 12-11-2025 at 23:56

A lot of pure nickel battery tabs from eBay/China are actually just nickel plated steel. I'm guessing 99% of their users wouldn't tell the difference.

woelen - 13-11-2025 at 07:35

Your solution looks remarkably much like a solution you get when you dissolve pure iron in HNO3, which I did a few years ago. Most likely Deathunter88's post gives the best explanation.

moviez - 13-11-2025 at 19:24

Quote: Originally posted by Deathunter88  
A lot of pure nickel battery tabs from eBay/China are actually just nickel plated steel. I'm guessing 99% of their users wouldn't tell the difference.


You’re probably correct. I thought they were pure nickel since they were attracted to magnets, but apparently iron with a thin nickel coating does the same.

moviez - 13-11-2025 at 19:25

Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
Your solution looks remarkably much like a solution you get when you dissolve pure iron in HNO3, which I did a few years ago. Most likely Deathunter88's post gives the best explanation.


Thank you for the input. When the nitric acid was added, it indeed turned green momentarily (which is probably from the nickel coating) and then turned blood-red color right after.

moviez - 17-11-2025 at 21:21

Update:

Thank you all for the input. These are, indeed, just iron strips coated with a thin layer of nickel. See below for the thiocyanate test and Prussian blue test.

After the metal strips were dissolved in nitric acid, the mixture was diluted to ~300 ppm (by weight, so 0.0003 grams of metal ions per mL) before performing these tests. I didn’t do a quantitative analysis, but just based on the results, we can say the metal is mostly just iron.



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