Blind Angel - 8-5-2004 at 10:09
Found that @ The-Hive
what do you think?
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Proteios - 9-5-2004 at 00:44
meh... the chinese are ever putting out this crap. Always claiming to have violated some axim of scientific thinking.
Such work is always fundamentally flawed (although ive not pawed through this one in detail to work out where)....im guessing they dont count their
magnetic field as part of the system.
Ive now seen work claiming conservation of energy isnt valid, heisenburgs uncertainty principal isnt valid, 0 point vibrational energies can be
harnessed, etc. Such claims were never made in the pier review literature but were emailed to the department faculty on a depressingly regular basis.
If you really had made a discovery of this magnitude, the last thing you would do is send anyone a copy before is was in the pier review literature.
Put simply....without reading it in detail, the following points say this isnt worth reading.
This work is unpublished. If they had really invented a maxwell demon, and really violated the 2nd law of TD, they could publish this work ANYWHERE
they wanted. The fact that it is not published in a pier review journal says that this isnt worth reading.
If they really had invented a maxwell demon, they would have invented a source of limitless power. At a stroke they would have solved all the worlds
power issues.
Basically, dont waste your time.
[Edited on 9-5-2004 by Proteios]
Geomancer - 9-5-2004 at 09:25
The Chinese? I knew they were up to no good.
Referring to the figure 2b, it is clear that electrons leaving the right side of plate A will be directed to plate B. The question is, what
happens to electrons leaving the right side of plate B? The same force that obstructs them from going to the right side of plate A even more strongly
obstructs them going back to plate B.
It is clear the authors' proposed mechanism doesn't work, but it may take carefull examination to figure out where the energy they
measured comes from.
If you want to see a really slick type 2 PMM, check out the "Heat Sucker" in the link I give in the PMM thread. Also, for the sake of
orginization, you may want to put further inqueries into the subject there.
franklyn - 19-12-2009 at 11:31
Another triumph of technologic invention
Atomic scale Mono-pole magnets
http://www.nist.gov/ncnr/monopole_100609.cfm
But wait ! that's not all - Perpetual motion achieved 
http://opa.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=6956
It appears this is an electric effect somewhat analogous to brownian motion.
In this case producing stray electric current out of background thermal noise.
Related threads
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=9914
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6467
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=753
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6240#p...
Related sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual_motion_mac...
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/test-pm.htm
http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PSEUDOSC/TestPerpM.HTM
Follow the bouncing ball , da da da dada dada da
http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com
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