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Benzylamine Hydrochloride to Benzylamine

APO - 16-3-2013 at 11:26

Can I make Benzylamine for HNIW synthesis from Benzylamine Hydrochloride?

Prometheus23 - 16-3-2013 at 11:44

First of all you probably should have asked this question in the same thread you just started about making glyoxime from dimethylglyoxime, because the two questions are obviously both relating to the synthesis of HNIW.

Secondly, moderators always ask that threads without references be opened only in beginnings (thought I'd save Nicodem the trouble of saying it again).

As to your actual question, yes benzylamine hydrochloride can easily be turned into benzylamine. The only thing you would need to do would be to add a solution of a sufficiently strong base, like sodium hydroxide. The hydroxide will react with the ammonium ion to yield its freebase (benzylamine) along with water and NaCl. In response to your other question about making glyoxime from dimethylglyoxime the answer is basically no. There is no simple conversion of one to the other.

If you don't mind me saying though I don't think it is a particularly bright idea to try your hand at synthesizing high explosives when you are still struggling with the basic concepts like these. You should really learn the basics before you try to move forward. Especially when you want to move forward into making compounds that can very easily injure or kill you and people around you.

APO - 16-3-2013 at 11:48

Also, Glyoxime isn't for HNIW that's Glyoxal. I'm not planning on synthesizing anytime soon, I'm just very curious.

Prometheus23 - 16-3-2013 at 11:53

Yes I know that the glyoxime isn't used directly for the synthesis of HNIW. I meant that presumably you were asking about making glyoxime to then hydrolyze it into glyoxal.

APO - 16-3-2013 at 12:04

Oh, didn't know I could do that, I was going to make some Glyoxime Salts like Axt.

Prometheus23 - 16-3-2013 at 12:11

Oh I see. Well in that case nevermind, I was mistaken and those questions should be in separate threads (but in beginnings).

However please do consider what I said in my previous post about learning the basics of chemistry before trying to make explosives.

APO - 16-3-2013 at 12:13

I know (my school doesn't teach chemistry tho).