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maximum theoretical yield

floggedaway - 19-2-2014 at 11:08

hey what is the absolute maximum energy density that can be achieved with carbon based energetic materials. would other chemistry's be superior such as hydrogen- chlorine, etc

Metacelsus - 19-2-2014 at 11:29

Dicyanoacetylene + liquid ozone would probably be close to maximum energy density with only C, N, and O.

Bert - 19-2-2014 at 13:15

Do you mean maximum energy per weight, per volume, or possibly per Mol weight of single component HE?

roXefeller - 19-2-2014 at 13:28

Now you're just trying to confuse the fella.

Bert - 19-2-2014 at 18:10

Yeah. I used to have this kind of reaction a lot to poorly worded test questions in school-

Turner - 19-2-2014 at 18:40

Your question really is a bad one. First are you referring to energetic materials that explode? Or propellants? Heat of combustion? It definitely won't be a gas.

floggedaway - 19-2-2014 at 21:25

ones that explode in j/cm^3

Motherload - 19-2-2014 at 22:31

Maybe I am not understanding the question correctly .... But won't ONC be what you are wanting ?
Density of 1.98 g/CC and RE of 2.38 and VOD of over 10K/s
And if that is what you wanted to know ... This thread was kinda a waste.



[Edited on 20-2-2014 by Motherload]

Bert - 20-2-2014 at 15:28

Agreed- maybe define this a little more tightly?

Do you want to limit this to explosives that are or ever could be transported, and might actually be used by sane people with a job to do?

Or are lab curiosities and blue sky theoreticals fair game?



[Edited on 20-2-2014 by Bert]

floggedaway - 22-2-2014 at 18:36

i didn't make myself clear enough the actual theoretical yield per cc.

Metacelsus - 22-2-2014 at 18:47

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_carbon

Carbon-8 should be pretty energetic!

Or did you mean chemical carbon-based explosives?

Bert - 22-2-2014 at 21:44

Quote: Originally posted by floggedaway  
i didn't make myself clear enough the actual theoretical yield per cc.


So where did you look for the answer before you asked the question?

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
Quote:

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[Edited on 23-2-2014 by Bert]

Motherload - 23-2-2014 at 02:34

Quote: Originally posted by floggedaway  
i didn't make myself clear enough the actual theoretical yield per cc.


Actual theoretical is very oxymoronic !!

This thread is lame and needs to be removed.