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Boron sulphate?

D4RR3N - 13-3-2014 at 04:21

Does boron sulphate exist as a compound, just cant find much info on it?

Secondly if I heated elemental sulphur with boron trioxide would I get elemental boron and sulphur dioxide or boron sulphate?

additionally boric acid powder with elemental sulphur?

Endo - 13-3-2014 at 06:22

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01093a065

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/%28SICI%291521-37...

Mellor Volume 5 in the Sci-madness library.

blogfast25 - 13-3-2014 at 06:22

Boron doesn't form any salts, at least not with any 'B<sup>3+</sup>' cations. So no 'boron sulphate'.

[Edited on 13-3-2014 by blogfast25]

Zyklon-A - 13-3-2014 at 06:59

Yeah, the sulfate ion, is of course ionic. Boron, being a non-metal, can only form ionic compounds if it's the anion, not the cation.

D4RR3N - 13-3-2014 at 08:12



[Edited on 13-3-2014 by D4RR3N]

DraconicAcid - 13-3-2014 at 08:25

Well, it's possible that you *could* make boron sulphate, it just wouldn't be an ionic compound.

I seem to recall reading something along those lines...let's see....Cotton & Wilkinson, 4th Ed, Advanced Inorganic Chemistry notes the existence of B(HSO4)3 and B(HSO4)4- ions in solutions made by dissolving boric acid in concentrated sulphuric acid (p. 246).

kmno4 - 13-3-2014 at 11:21

I could not find information about "boron sulfate" of B2(SO4)3 stoichiometry, but another "sulfate" is characterised: B2S2O9
Of course, it contains no ions, but joinded tetrahedra [BO4] and [SO4] .

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B2S2O9 : A Boron Sulfate with Phyllosilicate Topology [Angew.Chemie]


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D4RR3N - 15-3-2014 at 07:48

Thanks everyone!

DraconicAcid, that would be an acid right, I mean an acid mixed with an acid wont produce a salt


Are there any boron-sulphur compounds which are commonly known/available? (which are stable in aqueous environment)

[Edited on 15-3-2014 by D4RR3N]