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Doubt about Fulminates

AlphaDecay - 21-3-2014 at 15:54

Since Mercury is hard to obtain for some people, and Silver is somewhat expensive, is it possible to make other kinds of metal fulminates, besides Hg(CNO)2 and AgCNO?

plante1999 - 21-3-2014 at 16:04

not without mercury fulminate to start with.

AlphaDecay - 21-3-2014 at 16:25

You mean that i can only obtain other metal fulminates through Hg(CNO)2?

Metacelsus - 21-3-2014 at 16:46

No, you can make silver fulminate in the same manner as mercury fulminate:

Collins, P. H. and Holloway, K. J. (1978), A Reappraisal of Silver Fulminate as a Detonant. Propellants, Explosives, Pyrotechnics, 3: 159–162. doi: 10.1002/prep.19780030603

But yes, the other fulminates are generally only accessible through mercury fulminate (or silver, but silver is less stable).

[Edited on 22-3-2014 by Cheddite Cheese]

AlphaDecay - 21-3-2014 at 16:53

Ok, question answered, thanks for the help.

Praxichys - 21-3-2014 at 16:54

How much fulminate do you hope to make? Silver is USD $0.75/g and that makes 1.3g of AgCNO... If you're making more than a gram or two at a time you're sure to have an explosion. Silver fulminate is extremely sensitive to friction.

[Edited on 22-3-2014 by Praxichys]

AlphaDecay - 21-3-2014 at 16:59

Yes, that seems fair, and by the way, fulminates should be stored underwater, right?

The_Davster - 21-3-2014 at 17:31

Yes they should be stored under water, but silver can still propagate a DDT despite being under water. Glass rod in a glass beaker on AgCNO under water is enough to cause detonation of the contents.