Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Not able to log in with https..........

Not able to log in with https..........

solo - 1-11-2005 at 07:09

I have not been able to log in today with the https because the browser reports unable to log in because it cannot secure the site.......although loggin in http works fine.....maybe it's just my browser? I run a Mac OS with Safari browser..........solo

[Edited on 3-11-2005 by solo]

zoomer - 1-11-2005 at 09:16

I'm having the same problem, and I have a standard PC/Windows set-up.

BromicAcid - 1-11-2005 at 10:34

Same here, the secure version of sciencemadness new posts is my home page and it just wouldn't even attempt to load it, luckily I typed it in manually to sciencemadness.org and it worked.

The_Davster - 1-11-2005 at 15:07

Same here I can't get onto the site with https but I can with http. The error I get with firefox is "the connection with www.sciencemadness.org has terminated unexpectedly. Some data may have been transfered". IE gives a page not found error.

EDIT: its the end of the day for me here, and it seems like only 1/3 to 1/2 of the normal ammount of daily visitors have been to the forum today.

[Edited on 2-11-2005 by rogue chemist]

BromicAcid - 1-11-2005 at 21:57

Okay, Im starting to get freaked out, this is not good, https stops working again and these mirror universe posts show up again and my post count changes and everything. Posts from before are gone, is this happening only on my end or something?

The_Davster - 1-11-2005 at 22:20

Posts from before what? I lost a post a day or so ago(and you did as well) when we both posted in hideki's thread which got moved to detritus.
Mirror universe posts?
And I'm scared, we are the only members who have been on in hours

.

EDIT: I added you to my MSN Bromic.

[Edited on 2-11-2005 by rogue chemist]

solo - 2-11-2005 at 03:54

No ...you're not alone , the same thing is happening this morning , can't log in with https but http works fine. yesterday I looked for this thread and it was gone , now it's here.....odd very odd..............solo

forum security compromised ?

Rosco Bodine - 2-11-2005 at 08:50

That's what I suspect may be occurring .

I have seen disappearing posts ,
including several of my own , the most recent just a few minutes ago in the
Ammonium Pyrosulfate thread where I gave a detailed decription of a d. 1.5 HNO3 distillation experiment .

and wondered about the new user

ChemGrl5 which always returns no view of the " last post " when the link is clicked .

Something very wierd is afoot ,
maybe time to change some admins passwords to put an end to the mischief .

Darkblade48 - 2-11-2005 at 09:25

I'm getting the same problem, https log in doesn't work, but http works just fine. However, I haven't noticed any disappearing threads or such yet, though there has been a lack of activity (in general).

Rosco Bodine - 2-11-2005 at 11:12

Something is definitely going on with the
website . Posts that disappeared for a couple of days from the HMX thread suddenly reappeared , and one my posts today in the Ammonium Pyrosulfate thread appeared for a few minutes and then disappeared completely . HTTPS is completely dead .

So.....WTF is going on with these glitches ?

vulture - 2-11-2005 at 13:53

Something is amiss allright. However, only polverone has the power to acces specific server configurations.

So far everything points to a server glitch, but you never know.

Chris The Great - 2-11-2005 at 16:10

I'm alive, but getting the same error as everyone else. Haven't noticed the post thing but I haven't logged on in the past few days.

Hopefully this is just a server glitch or something...

zoomer - 2-11-2005 at 17:47

I noticed that Polverone has not logged in today. Has anyone emailed him about the problem?

Z

BromicAcid - 2-11-2005 at 17:50

Gahhh, another error, Polverone was on last night less then 24 hours ago and should be on the list of people that have visted in the last 24 hours but must only be on the other phantom version of sciencemadness for now. For people that didn't notice, SM was like this most of the day yesterday then at night it suddenly fixed itself and all the posts made while it was messed up disappeared including this one and the one I made in the references thread and a bunch of other posts came up that I couldn't see before, then later at night it messed up again and https stopped working again and this thread came back up and the others went away. Maybe it is only doing this for some people and others are seeing the version of the site where https does work?

The_Davster - 2-11-2005 at 18:42

I did a quick survey of 3 people I know to got them to access https from their computers. It worked for 2 of them but not for one....

BTW none of them are members if it makes a difference somehow.

EDIT: Whoa...weird....Rosco, you werent even visible under "whos online" when that post appeared.

[Edited on 3-11-2005 by rogue chemist]

Rosco Bodine - 2-11-2005 at 18:47

It could be a bad drive in a RAID array ,
and it is resulting in the data phasing in and out like the tides , as it loses and then finds it for awhile , losing it again in a sort of cycle .

ChemGrl5 - 2-11-2005 at 19:08

ChemGrl5 which always returns no view of the " last post " when the link is clicked .

Just thought I should respond since I saw my name mentioned.
My last communication here was not actualy a post, but a U2U message to another user. That was 6 days ago. I began to wonder myself if something wasn't wrong 4 days ago when I noticed my name still appered under the forum heading and I had not actualy made a post. I was thinking someone else would have surely posted to this forum in 2 days. There my or my not be more to this, I really don't know, basicly I asked another user if I should be suspicious of another new user offering for sale "hard to find chems". Oddly enough my name has been stuck there every since. Thats really freaking me out.

ChemGrl5 - 2-11-2005 at 19:12

Also the console says I have a U2U message but I can't access it The U2u messanger for me to send won't come up either.

Rosco Bodine - 2-11-2005 at 19:34

Heck , don't worry about it .

It happens all the time that one persons post is what kills an entire thread real dead ......

so killing the whole site is just taking things to a whole new level

The mystery explained

Polverone - 2-11-2005 at 19:42

Micfo migrated their whole business to a new datacenter on new hardware. Our site went along for the ride. To ease the transition, they have left the old hardware running for a time.

This means that there were 2 copies of sciencemadness online simultaneously, one running in the old datacenter and one in the new datacenter. Individual users saw whichever one they had the DNS entry for. Everyone should be seeing the site on its new hardware, now that the DNS information has had time to propagate. Posts that were made on the old hardware after the changeover began are probably lost. People were seeing different versions of the site based on whether or not the computer they were using had yet received the updated DNS information. This is why posts vanished and reappeared: people were actually looking at different copies of the site.

I need to put in a request to Micfo to fix our SSL certificate, which needs to be updated now that we have a new IP address. Micfo says that performance and uptime should be better in the new datacenter. I did see when I logged in that we are running on a shiny new Opteron server (ooh! aah!).

I was going to complain about how Micfo didn't give any warning before the change, but it turns out they did. I received an email some days ago from them telling of the coming migration, but it was to an email account that I check very rarely nowadays. I will change my contact email with them so I don't miss any further announcements. Sorry for the unexpected transition, but at least we can rest easy that the trouble wasn't malicious.

[Edited on 11-3-2005 by Polverone]

Darkblade48 - 2-11-2005 at 19:44

Quote:

Originally posted by ChemGrl5
Also the console says I have a U2U message but I can't access it The U2u messanger for me to send won't come up either.

That's quite odd, I sent 2 U2U messages to other users, and they haven't responded yet (this was 2 days ago). Maybe this weird server issue has something to do with people not receiving U2U messages as well.

Edit: Polverone replied with the reason why it was screwing up just as I was posting this

Oo, Ahh, a new server

[Edited on 3-11-2005 by Darkblade48]

Rosco Bodine - 2-11-2005 at 20:06

If there is any way to retrieve my post in the Ammonium Pyrosulfate thread from the old hardware , it should be migrated manually . It was very detailed experiment report with some good information that hasn't been covered before .

Polverone - 2-11-2005 at 20:30

Edit: here's how to access the old board (for a limited amount of time):

go to http://porsche.micfo.com/~sciencem/talk/ and you will see the board that was migrated away from. Rosco, I have already rescued your longer ammonium pyrosulfate post and edited it into your existing most recent post on that topic. If anyone else wrote anything valuable there that isn't showing up here, now is the time to rescue it.

[Edited on 11-3-2005 by Polverone]

Fleaker - 7-11-2005 at 13:39

Hm, still can't use the https feature. Polverone, any idea when that will be available?

Thanks

Fleaker - 9-11-2005 at 19:15

Never mind, all seems well now but for the fact I couldn't edit the above post.

Darkblade48 - 9-11-2005 at 19:42

I think after a certain time, you can't edit your old posts

solo - 30-11-2005 at 16:33

what happened with the forum ...unable to log in for half an hour almost as if the bandwidth was exhausted......solo

[Edited on 1-12-2005 by solo]

The_Davster - 30-11-2005 at 17:35

I have been having problems with the forum going really slow/not responding, and got a connection error a few times when going into https.

[Edited on 1-12-2005 by rogue chemist]

solo - 30-11-2005 at 17:45

in my last try I got this.....solo

Database connection error!!!

A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!

When connecting, the database returned:
Error 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)

Polverone - 1-12-2005 at 00:32

I briefly saw the database error myself, though I haven't seen the slowness that others have reported. I did notice at the time that there were around 40 people visiting the board, which is a considerable number for this site. It may be that the board is loading MySQL too heavily when many people are viewing; I know that this version of XMB uses it quite inefficiently. However, I am reluctant to upgrade to the new XMB until it has seen some months of use by others. Never buy a product with a low serial number... even if it's free

However, if this becomes a regular problem I will bite the bullet and upgrade even if it does make me a bit uncomfortable. Known problems aren't better than unknown possible problems.

chemoleo - 1-12-2005 at 07:41

Before you upgrade, could you please make a forum backup (wanted to ask you for that anyway) and post a link to it?

BTW, on the European continent, we had similar connection troubles

[Edited on 1-12-2005 by chemoleo]

12AX7 - 9-12-2005 at 20:56

*Shrug* posting from https:// right now.

solo - 24-12-2005 at 16:02

Database connection error!
A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!

(sat 2pm,Dec 24,2005 Mexico time at sciencemsdness access error)

garage chemist - 24-12-2005 at 16:13

The same from Germany: Database connection error.

neutrino - 24-12-2005 at 17:17

I'm getting that too, but reloading the page a few times eventually gets me the page I want.

The_Davster - 24-12-2005 at 17:21

I've been getting that all day, from both Http and Https, this is the first time I have been on today.

solo - 9-1-2006 at 12:26

Another bug in the system as all I got today till now is this.......solo
------------------------------------------------
Database connection error!
A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!
-------------------------------------------------
MySQL has encountered an unknown error. To find out the exact problem, please set the DEBUG flag to true in header.php.
------------------------------------------------

12AX7 - 9-1-2006 at 12:33

Ditto the MySQL error for the last eh, quarter day more or less?

solo - 17-1-2006 at 14:43

A 15 minute hick up.....solo

Database connection error!

A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!

............4:25PM Mexico City time lasting for 15 minutes

solo - 17-1-2006 at 14:44

A 15 minute hick up.....solo

Database connection error!

A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!

............4:25PM Mexico City time lasting for 15 minutes and it's still sluggish

Rosco Bodine - 6-2-2006 at 09:54

For the past couple of days connectivity to the forum
has been intermittent , https also being affected ,
as it is down right now as I type this post .

There may be a problem with the hosting service .

garage chemist - 6-2-2006 at 09:57

Https didn't work for me yesterday and today. My browser says connection is being rejected.

[Edited on 6-2-2006 by garage chemist]

Polverone - 6-2-2006 at 12:05

I am getting the same message. I will look at it more closely this evening when I have time. Thanks for reporting the problem.

Page not found

MadHatter - 6-2-2006 at 13:13

This is the error I get when trying to connect to HTTPS.

Polverone - 6-2-2006 at 17:40

I went to investigate it just now and it seems to be working correctly. Are others currently able to connect with https?

The_Davster - 6-2-2006 at 17:48

I was just able to use https as of ~20 min ago. I had not been able to since friday or saturday.

garage chemist - 7-2-2006 at 09:18

Https works again for me too. No problems.

Rosco Bodine - 24-2-2006 at 12:03

Attachments are unavailable when connected via https ,
files can be uploaded but not viewed or downloaded .

This has been going on for a week or more .

Polverone - 24-2-2006 at 23:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Rosco Bodine
Attachments are unavailable when connected via https ,
files can be uploaded but not viewed or downloaded .

This has been going on for a week or more .

I just tried and was unable to reproduce your problem. Are you using a proxy? Can you try using a different web browser or internet connection.

Rosco Bodine - 25-2-2006 at 20:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Polverone

Quote:

Originally posted by Rosco Bodine
Attachments are unavailable when connected via https ,
files can be uploaded but not viewed or downloaded .

This has been going on for a week or more .

I just tried and was unable to reproduce your problem. Are you using a proxy? Can you try using a different web browser or internet connection.

I'll run system diagnostics and check my security
and firewall and browser settings , reinstall the browser ,
all the usual stuff . Never run into this before and
it doesn't happen on the regular http connection
with a proxy or without , So it's a mystery at this point .
Probably just packet loss from the echelon servers
picking through every bit before passing it on

[Edited on 26-2-2006 by Rosco Bodine]

Polverone - 26-2-2006 at 00:21

Can others confirm/deny Rosco's problem with downloading attachments while connected through https? I don't get the malfunction, but if others do maybe we can figure out what the common factor is.

Rosco Bodine - 26-2-2006 at 08:34

I ran all diagnostics and have found no problems .

The problem is only affecting PDF files and not other file types .

Instead of the browser recognizing the PDF file type ,
it pops up a warning box which misdesignates the file
as some sort of Acrobat Active X file type which cannot be
opened . Very wierd .

A possible malicious code warning pops up and the
file type is misdesignated as

file type: Adobe Acrobat Control for ActiveX

Of course it is just a PDF file which should open right up
in another browser window , tiled within Acrobat Reader .

Maybe I need to reinstall Acrobat ?

[Edited on 26-2-2006 by Rosco Bodine]

neutrino - 26-2-2006 at 09:08

What browser are you using? Maybe you need to play with your security settings a little.

Can you save the file to your hard drive and then open it regularly with Acrobat?

Rosco Bodine - 26-2-2006 at 09:29

IE6 is what I'm running and it works fine otherwise .

I reinstalled it anyway , the problem persists .

I reinstalled Acrobat Full Version too , no joy .....

and both the browser and Acrobat work fine in every other way , and this problem appeared recently ....
only using https .

I'll try just turning off the security and firewall
completely and see if its some sort of authenticode
problem .

Nothing seems to be fixing it . I'll try another machine
later .

It is strange because the problem only appears for the
pdf files and only when connected via https . Otherwise ,
everything works fine . Go figure .

[Edited on 26-2-2006 by Rosco Bodine]

neutrino - 26-2-2006 at 11:55

I know that IE suffers from many ActiveX security problems. It sounds to me like an overzealous programmer may have put a little too much security into an update or patch.

Try firefox. It doesn't suffer from IE's vulnerabilities so there shouldn't be any overprotective security measures 'protecting' it. That and it's a great browser.

Rosco Bodine - 27-2-2006 at 04:43

Yeah I think the problem is in the browser security ,
since the combination of the pdf file type and the
site authentication protocol being " unconventional "
or perhaps the file being relayed across domains ,
or all three things together adds up to a
" can not open file " or
" site cannot be found " scenario for Internet Explorer ,
which also flags the connection attempt as communication to an " Unknown Zone "

It happens even with all security turned off ,
so there is something screwed up with the
file transfer protocols specific for pdf files ......
otherwise jpegs and gif files would also be
affected .....but those file types work fine in
exactly the same scenario otherwise , downloading
without any problem . It may be that the pdf
file type itself has some added security concerning
the ways it may be relayed across domains ?

Possibly part of the problem is the combination
scenario where the page connection in https contains
both secure and non-secure items , and the browser
gets confused about what to do with subsequent
download links from a page that is a mixed bag of
secure and non-secure items . In fact that may be the
whole problem , if the files trying to be fetched are
on a regular http connection , and the browser is
trying to download them via a secure connection
where the files can't be found , it's like the browser
is looking for a non-existing location for the files because
of some redirection or linking error .

[Edited on 27-2-2006 by Rosco Bodine]

Rosco Bodine - 27-2-2006 at 21:58

update : Found the problem is a known issue ,
but haven't yet tried the fix .

CAUSE
This issue occurs if the server sends a "Cache-control:no-store" header or sends a "Cache-control:no-cache" header.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323308#XSLTH3174121124120...

solo - 1-3-2006 at 10:42

Missed you guys for all of 18 minutes ....no access as server not available
12:25-12:38PM Mexico City time..........solo

solo - 13-3-2006 at 07:14

https...........not available , can only log in with http.............9:12 AM Mexico City time.........solo

solo - 13-3-2006 at 12:38

Database connection error!
A connection to the Database could not be established.
Please check your username, password, database name and host.
Also make sure config.php is rightly configured!

........AT SCIENCEMADNESS AT 1:46 MEXICO CITY TIME