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Methyl Salicylate (Oil of Wintergreen)

Darkblade48 - 5-12-2005 at 19:46

Here’s a simple synthesis of methyl salicylate (oil of wintergreen), for those that just started (organic) chemistry (though of course, even if you are a bit more experienced, nothing beats a minty smelling flask/test tube :)).

Necessary reagents:
Methanol, CH3OH
Salicylic acid, OHC6H4COOH
Concentrated Sulfuric Acid, H2SO4

The procedure is a Fischer esterification and is quite simple, and can be followed below (I used point form for ease of following and simplicity). Note that I did this on a microscale, but if you have the right apparatus, this can easily be scaled up. You could also get more complicated by using a Dean-Stark trap for esterification, etc.

1) Dissolve 0.2 grams salicylic acid into 2.0 mL of methanol in a 5 mL round bottom flask.

2) Add 4-5 drops concentrated H2SO4

3) Add a few boiling chips to promote smooth boiling.

4) Reflux for 40 minutes.

5) After 40 minutes, remove and isolate product.

Discussion: In step 4, I used a hot water bath and not a sand bath, which is not the best method. The water vapours that come off from the water bath cause the condenser to heat up much too quickly, and some of the product vapour managed to escape the condenser. In addition, I didn’t have a pipe cleaner handy (to wrap around the condenser to keep it cool) so I improvised and used some small strips of wet paper towel in an attempt to keep the condenser cool.

I also did not bother isolating the product (i.e. separating from the water, methanol that is left over, etc.) as I don’t have the necessary reagents.

If you want to purify your product, you can do the following:

1) Pour the mixture into a test tube and add 4 mL diethyl ether.

2) Remove the aqueous layer with a (Pasteur) pipette.

3) Pour the organic layer into another (dry) test tube and remove any residual water.

4) Add 2 mL NaHCO3 solution and mix. This will neutralize any remaining acid.

5) Transfer the ether layer to another (dry) test tube and add CaCl2 pellets until the product is dry.

Some pictures:


Image of the initial setup (paper towel taken away for better image)


Image of the setup in the hot water bath (paper towel taken away for better image)

References: Williamson, Kenneth. Macroscale and Microscale: Organic Experiments. 4th Edition. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company; 2003. pg. 486 – 497

Edit: Some minor coding problems

[Edited on 6/12/05 by Darkblade48]

Magpie - 5-12-2005 at 20:23

I like your write up. This is an excellent beginning experiment for someone interested in organic chemistry. I have never done a microscale experiment (other than test tubes). What is that metal rod gizmo in your reflux condenser?

(If any are interested I could post a song called "Fischer Esterification" sung to the tune of "Fun, Fun, Fun" by the Beach Boys.)

Darkblade48 - 5-12-2005 at 20:44

Quote:
Originally posted by Magpie
I like your write up. This is an excellent beginning experiment for someone interested in organic chemistry. I have never done a microscale experiment (other than test tubes). What is that metal rod gizmo in your reflux condenser?

Thanks for the compliments, I thought it was poorly written, as I typed it up on the spot without much prethought (more like I just copied almost directly out of my lab notebook that I keep...)

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to as the "metal rod gizmo" in the condenser, are you talking about the needle? If so, it is simple a hollow needle there to relieve pressure buildup. It can clearly be seen in the first picture.

However, if you are talking about what I think you're talking about, then it's just the glare of the glass walls of the condenser, due to my bad photography skills :) There actually is nothing else inside the condenser other than the aforementionned needle.

Edit: I was just curious as to the isolation step. Williamson calls for ether, but would it be feasible to try this with dichloromethane (DCM)?

[Edited on 6/12/05 by Darkblade48]

Magpie - 5-12-2005 at 21:05

Yes! It's a hypodermic needle, of course.

When we did this on "small scale" we extracted with dichloromethane, dryed with sodium sulfate, and then used the "vacuum hose/hotplate" method to get rid of the dichloromethane. Final purification was by vacuum distillation. I don't know if you want or need that final step for your procedure, however.

Darkblade48 - 5-12-2005 at 21:32

Quote:
Originally posted by Magpie
Yes! It's a hypodermic needle, of course.

I thought you had referred to my poor photography skills, guess you were referring to the needle afterall ;)

Quote:
Originally posted by Magpie
When we did this on "small scale" we extracted with dichloromethane, dryed with sodium sulfate, and then used the "vacuum hose/hotplate" method to get rid of the dichloromethane. Final purification was by vacuum distillation. I don't know if you want or need that final step for your procedure, however.

Oh, I don't think the procedure needs to be changed, surely ether and calcium chloride work just well, I was just curious as to whether or not DCM and other dessicators would work just as fine to dry the final product.

Polverone - 5-12-2005 at 23:15

Preliminary PDF for comments and alteration:
http://www.sciencemadness.org/scipics/methyl_salicylate.pdf

Darkblade48 - 6-12-2005 at 04:09

Just curious as to why the pdf has such a large white space on page 2 before the picture. I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but the references have also been pushed onto their own separate page.

PainKilla - 25-3-2006 at 13:07

I just thought I would report the results of my attempt to make this pleasant smelling substance :).

I followed the procedure from vogel but scaled it up.

Equipment:
1L round boiling flask
400mm condensor (west)
Walmart hotplate
Walmart submersible air pump (for condensor)
Seperatory funnel

Materials:
160g Salicylic Acid
475ml Methanol
50ml H2SO4 (94%)
666 g NaHCO3

Procedure:
Combine the salicylic acid and methanol in flask. Slowly add H2SO4 until everything is nice and mixed. Reflux in water bath for 4 hours. The temperature in the flask was measured to be about 74C. After 4 hours, take off the condensor and methanol evaporate for about 45 minutes. You may see white precipitate forming in methanol. (only thing it could possible be is unreacted salicylic acid) Remove from water bath and let the flask/mixture cool, you will notice two distinct layers forming, the one on the bottom is the methyl salicylate.

Add the cooled mixture to a seperatory funnel, add 300ml chilled water. Seperate the layers, keeping the lower one. Make a sodium bicarbonate solution and keep adding it until it's neutralized. Seperate again. The product is fairly pure, though I'd at least dry it. Drying can be done via MgSO4, which seemed to work excellently for myself. If you aren't using it as perfume then redistillation is not necessary IMHO.

Theoretical yield- 148ml
Final yield- 125ml
Percent Yield: 84% :).

I would say very succesful overall.

Now my question is, what other uses does it have besides smelling/tasting good?

[Edited on 25-3-2006 by PainKilla]

joeflsts - 25-3-2006 at 16:14

I'm sure you already know this but just to be sure:

"Methyl salicylate may be lethal if taken internally or externally. Oral doses of less than 1 teaspoonful (5 mL) have been fatal to small children [2]. Use in liniments and vaporizers is potentially lethal"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_salicylate

PainKilla - 25-3-2006 at 20:19

Are you implying poisoning as a use? :o

Slightly off topic but does anyone know offhand the ester for the banana smell?

The_Davster - 25-3-2006 at 20:52

3-methylbutyl ethanoate(amyl acetate). I posted a list of ester smells here a while back.

joeflsts - 26-3-2006 at 05:15

Quote:
Originally posted by PainKilla
Are you implying poisoning as a use? :o

Slightly off topic but does anyone know offhand the ester for the banana smell?


No not at all, the poster I was replying to suggested it had a nice taste.

Joe

Volvagia - 2-8-2006 at 20:02

It is a fungicide, and (I think) a very weak broad-spectrum antibiotic. It also fluorescences a nice blue with UV light.

And according to wikipedia:


Quote:

Methyl Salicylate also has the ability to clear plant or animal tissue samples of colour, and as such is useful for microscopy and immunohistochemistry when excess pigments obscure structures or block light in the tissue being examined. This clearing generally only takes a few minutes, but the tissue must first be dehydrated in alcohol.


And it is toxic only in large quantities. It is actively used as a flavoring agent in candy. A dose of a tablespoon is lethal to small children. So if you are sure of your purity, it is usable in food with great respect to the concentrations involved.



Various conditions after 7 days. The one on the left is commerical grade, the one in the middle is made from salicylic acid from aspirn, the one the the right is the control.

Darkblade48 - 2-8-2006 at 20:41

Wow, I like the microbiology experiment.

I'm curious (probably not the best place to ask this), but where did you get the agar for the culture medium?

Volvagia - 2-8-2006 at 21:15

Thats a picture from the internet....I personally didn't conduct the experiment.

Although in my experience in the lab, if you aren't careful about sterility (and even then), you will get fungal contamination in LB media, either on the plate with agar or just straight solution.

Again, I haven't done it so I can't verify how useful this is, but try this for the agar source:

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/2_OZ_AGAR_P427C108.cfm

Ignore their recipe though.

Procedure for experiment the picture I took it from

YT2095 - 3-8-2006 at 00:28

that probably explains why they put it in surgical spirit (like rubbing alcohol) then.
I always thought it was to stop you drinking it or distilling it since it`s 98% ethanol.

triphenylphosphineoxide - 3-8-2006 at 07:04

Oil of wintergreen is also used a a topical analgesic; think Dencorub, MetSal.
Personally I dissolve it in Peppermint Oil, and store it with a Chilli.

Fenir - 20-5-2013 at 17:10

Would it be possible to substitute sodium bisulfate for the sulfuric acid? Thanks for any help, I am just getting into esterfications.

subsecret - 14-6-2013 at 21:13

Quote: Originally posted by PainKilla  


...

I followed the procedure from vogel but scaled it up.

Equipment:
1L round boiling flask
400mm condensor (west)
Walmart hotplate
Walmart submersible air pump (for condensor)
Seperatory funnel

...



You used an air pump for your condenser? Were you running air through your condenser, or did you submerge the pump? I'd be concerned with the water resistance of an air pump.

Stearic - 14-7-2013 at 10:45

Quote: Originally posted by Fenir  
Would it be possible to substitute sodium bisulfate for the sulfuric acid? Thanks for any help, I am just getting into esterfications.

A thread that lists some alternatives.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=21045

bfesser - 14-7-2013 at 14:06

Quote: Originally posted by Awesomeness  
You used an air pump for your condenser? Were you running air through your condenser, or did you submerge the pump? I'd be concerned with the water resistance of an air pump.
<strong>Awesomeness</strong>, <strong>PainKilla</strong> hasn't been active since 10/18/09. You might want to glance at the dates of posts you're responding to. ;)