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Forum safety

DrNewbee - 6-8-2015 at 11:14

Hi guys.

I was wondering how safe is it to discuss topics here without getting in to trouble with the law...is there a way for a person to safeguard his identity here in the forum?

aga - 6-8-2015 at 11:37

Don't be silly.

If there's something illegal you want to do, you'll end up being caught anyway.

E.g. if you want to make and sell drugs, you'll more likely be caught (or killed) whilst selling them.

If you want to discuss a particular system or synthesis, having already done the work yourself, people here will generally be interested.

None are interested in handing out recipes.

Sulaiman - 6-8-2015 at 12:19

In my opinion, if you put something on the net or in your smartphone, computer etc. then it is not 'safe'
With smart TVs etc. around, even what you say is not 'safe'.
The only privacy that's left is the inside of your head (quote from 'Enemy of the state')

aga - 6-8-2015 at 12:26

Booze was invented to let the contents of your head dribble out all over the internet.

Well, that's my experience ...

battoussai114 - 6-8-2015 at 17:22

The forum only knows what you allow it to get, TOR, ProxyGambit, fake emails and info, anyone who's worried enough could keep his identity off the web. BUT, if you were a target valuable enough, it's been shown that the TOR web can be compromised by some 3 letter group that has enough resources....

diddi - 6-8-2015 at 17:35

I always wear PPE when using the forum. Suit up and all will be OK. ;)

[Edited on 7-8-2015 by diddi]

DrNewbee - 6-8-2015 at 20:42

Quote: Originally posted by aga  
Don't be silly.

If there's something illegal you want to do, you'll end up being caught anyway.

E.g. if you want to make and sell drugs, you'll more likely be caught (or killed) whilst selling them.

If you want to discuss a particular system or synthesis, having already done the work yourself, people here will generally be interested.

None are interested in handing out recipes.


Im not thinking of making or selling drugs...dont you be silly hehe...i was rather thinking that if i was curious and wanted to know how something would work, could that be aenough to get i to trouble...i mean freedom of info should not be scary...

battoussai114 - 7-8-2015 at 17:57

Quote: Originally posted by DrNewbee  
Quote: Originally posted by aga  
Don't be silly.

If there's something illegal you want to do, you'll end up being caught anyway.

E.g. if you want to make and sell drugs, you'll more likely be caught (or killed) whilst selling them.

If you want to discuss a particular system or synthesis, having already done the work yourself, people here will generally be interested.

None are interested in handing out recipes.


Im not thinking of making or selling drugs...dont you be silly hehe...i was rather thinking that if i was curious and wanted to know how something would work, could that be aenough to get i to trouble...i mean freedom of info should not be scary...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/new-york-police...
.... yeah....

Camroc37 - 7-8-2015 at 22:29

Quote: Originally posted by battoussai114  
Quote: Originally posted by DrNewbee  
Quote: Originally posted by aga  
Don't be silly.

If there's something illegal you want to do, you'll end up being caught anyway.

E.g. if you want to make and sell drugs, you'll more likely be caught (or killed) whilst selling them.

If you want to discuss a particular system or synthesis, having already done the work yourself, people here will generally be interested.

None are interested in handing out recipes.


Im not thinking of making or selling drugs...dont you be silly hehe...i was rather thinking that if i was curious and wanted to know how something would work, could that be aenough to get i to trouble...i mean freedom of info should not be scary...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/new-york-police...
.... yeah....

New York*

Corrosive Joeseph - 8-8-2015 at 10:39

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_and_network_surveilla...

szuko03 - 8-8-2015 at 11:25

I really wouldnt be worried honestly. If you are not doing anything highly illegal anything you say should be taken as theoretical. Sure you can think that if you were to do something highly illegal and discuss it here you may get investigated but I usually think like this:

It is very vain of someone to think the law is watching them because they said a string of words on the internet. The internet is a huge place and words get said all the time through it. It would be very unlike for someone to get investigated asking "how does one perform a birch reduction" or "can someone assist with a Grignard reaction" However if you state "i need to synthesis a batch of meth for sale" then maybe you will get caught up in something but i still think not.

Loptr - 8-8-2015 at 11:35

Quote: Originally posted by szuko03  
I really wouldnt be worried honestly. If you are not doing anything highly illegal anything you say should be taken as theoretical. Sure you can think that if you were to do something highly illegal and discuss it here you may get investigated but I usually think like this:

It is very vain of someone to think the law is watching them because they said a string of words on the internet. The internet is a huge place and words get said all the time through it. It would be very unlike for someone to get investigated asking "how does one perform a birch reduction" or "can someone assist with a Grignard reaction" However if you state "i need to synthesis a batch of meth for sale" then maybe you will get caught up in something but i still think not.


I'm more afraid of getting caught up into an ontology, with correlation scores determined between myself, my topics, and likelihood of relation to other topics.

I have been there and contributed to such a "theoretical" system, and know they have to be used by various governments. The field of machine learning, computational linguistics and vision have gotten to the point where it's beyond scary when combined with mass surveillance. Just the results we saw were somewhat surprising.

[Edited on 8-8-2015 by Loptr]

szuko03 - 8-8-2015 at 11:39

If everything i do is theoretical do I actually exist ;)

Texium - 8-8-2015 at 11:42

Quote: Originally posted by szuko03  
If everything i do is theoretical do I actually exist ;)
You do... theoretically. :P

aga - 8-8-2015 at 12:47

Even looking at this site puts you on some List or other.

If World Events cause that List to be used, we will find you.

Make no mistake: we can always find you.

There is nowhere to hide.

[Edited on 8-8-2015 by aga]

battoussai114 - 8-8-2015 at 17:11

We are behind you.

Don't look back now.

DrWhooo - 9-8-2015 at 06:49

Quote: Originally posted by battoussai114  
We are behind you.

Don't look back now.



Hehe thx...good to know!

DrWhooo - 9-8-2015 at 06:51



[Edited on 9-8-2015 by DrWhooo]