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Gardening stores, tea leaves and drug kits

Mabus - 5-1-2016 at 13:31

So it seems that mere shopping at the local gardening/hydroponics store in the US might get you on the DEA watch:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/12/28/...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/pinellas-hydroponi...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/12/dea-marijuana-garde...
Since that is not enough, it seems that your simple tea leaves waste tests positive for both marijuana and cocaine to police drug kits. Even air tests positive for drugs.
https://popehat.com/2016/01/05/tea-and-unaccountability-bure...
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2009/mar/06/feature_citi...
You can't have fail without more fail behind it.

Etaoin Shrdlu - 5-1-2016 at 14:27

Without regard to the "but we weren't using our marijuana suspiciously enough" argument people who get caught always seem to come up with, really the police should be confirming any plant matter they dig up is illicit before anyone signs a warrant. Hopefully the recent push to decriminalize possession and better information on false positives will stop things like this from happening so much.

JJay - 5-1-2016 at 15:04

Marijuana is legal here. I could obtain some, extract THC and start experimenting with analogues if I wanted. I'm really not very interested in cannabinoid chemistry, though.

Sorry if it comes across like I'm rubbing it in, but it will eventually be legal throughout the entire USA.

Etaoin Shrdlu - 5-1-2016 at 18:14

Eh, just because marijuana is legal doesn't mean pure THC or analogues are legal. I'd be careful to anyone in the states considering that.

Still federally illegal across the US as well. Will be interesting to see how that evolves.

Mesa - 5-1-2016 at 18:21

Quote:
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2009/mar/06/feature_citi...


For someone so willing to point out the logical flaws in previous journalists publications on the subject, this author sure dropped the ball recognising where the accountability should lie.

Everything the police did was well within the bounds of their job. It's irrelevant what motivated them to act as they did, their actions were completely non-invasive up to the point where they recieved the signed warrant from a judge.

It's ultimately the responsibility of the judge to decide if the evidence fulfills the requirements for the investigation to escalate. If the judge decided not to sign off on the warrant, the whole scenario would be completely reasonable. Police identify a potentially suspicious person, and act within the guidelines given to them to do the job they are being paid to do.

[Edited on 6-1-2016 by Mesa]

[Edited on 6-1-2016 by Mesa]

JJay - 5-1-2016 at 18:22

Quote: Originally posted by Etaoin Shrdlu  
Eh, just because marijuana is legal doesn't mean pure THC or analogues are legal. I'd be careful to anyone in the states considering that.

Still federally illegal across the US as well. Will be interesting to see how that evolves.


Yeah, actually, pure THC is legal here, and the taxes on it would be the same per gram as 1% THC ditch weed. On the Federal level... there actually are some legal issues... the Obama administration has stated that they won't prosecute marijuana offenses in states where marijuana has been legalized... although as I understand it, a future President could legally take a different approach. I think that's highly unlikely, though.

annaandherdad - 5-1-2016 at 18:35

Around here hydroponics stores are a source of cheap, concentrated H2O2.

JJay - 5-1-2016 at 18:48

Quote: Originally posted by annaandherdad  
Around here hydroponics stores are a source of cheap, concentrated H2O2.


Good to know. I've been looking everywhere for that, and they do actually carry it here.