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more lawyer tax=the so-called Sanji incident

chemrox - 4-4-2016 at 22:43

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2013/05/ucla-chemist-trial...

Can you believe this shit? Is t-butyl-Li dangerous? Is this the end of organic chemistry in american schools? She was a grad student for shit's sake.

j_sum1 - 4-4-2016 at 23:14

That story is three years old and the incident seven years ago.
It may yet have an impact on decision-makers but probably only when considered along with other events.

I have heard of this tragic story before. It is probably better fuel for the Occupational Safety Brigade than the Ban Chemicals Guild at this late stage

chemrox - 5-4-2016 at 10:39

I didn't realize this was so old. It came in on an acs feed. I guess there's new news. The tragedy, aside from the incident, is the tort claim. I made phenethyllithiumbromide for an experiment a few years ago. I did geophysics at UCLA so I don't know what the chem labs are like but when I was in chemistry at UCB the organic labs were sorely under equipped. I've seen better labs in junior colleges. What, they didn't have a sand bucket?

Metacelsus - 5-4-2016 at 15:08

A sand bucket probably wouldn't have helped much. Working alone with pyrophoric compounds while wearing improper (flammable) clothes is a recipe for disaster. If, as the incident board found, the professor didn't properly train the people working in his lab about safe practices, then he is also to blame.

As far as the lawyers part goes, I believe they were trying to make an example out of the incident, to scare everyone else into improving lab safety.

blogfast25 - 5-4-2016 at 16:39

Quote: Originally posted by chemrox  
Is this the end of organic chemistry in american schools?


Could you maybe quit with the 'it's end of civilisation' type of hyperbole?

Quote: Originally posted by chemrox  
What, they didn't have a sand bucket?


Because a sand bucket would have solved everything, of course.

Do read your own signature or change it.

[Edited on 6-4-2016 by blogfast25]