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4-Nitrochlorobenzene synhtesis

gboneu - 3-6-2016 at 09:27

Hello everyone, i want to make 4-nitrochlorobenzene by chlorination of nitrobenzene (is what i have) i've tried a few times but cant get anything. I dissolve 3,2ml of nitrobenzene in ethanol (95%) and pass dry chlorine gass with iron wool to make FeCl3 insitu. HCl wass produce and the reaction was carry out at 45ºC. I had a 2 layer produced and when they mix up (adding a little bit of EtOH) but nothing crystalized out, i cool the solution out and some crystals precipitated but was nothing- I dont know what to do. I don't want to use Chloroform because i dont know if CCl4 is going to be produce. And i dont have it in abundnace (It's expensive here (fuck)) 4-chloronitrobenzene is not verry soluble in EtOH and i know that EtOH react's with chlorine but i didn's think it would be so bad- What can i do ? Could water and nitrobenzene be used in emulsion (Hard stirring) ?? Does someone did it before ?
If i can use walter i could make the chlorine with TCCA adding HCL dropwise ... i think ...

gdflp - 3-6-2016 at 09:39

You will not be able to make 4-chloronitrobenzene in any appreciable amounts using this method because an aromatic nitro group is strongly deactivating, and thus a meta-director. In addition, ethanol is a horrible solvent for chlorination for two reasons, namely that it does react with chlorine and the fact that your product(3-chloronitrobenzene in this case) is soluble in ethanol. Nitration of chlorobenzene is the standard method of preparing your target compound.

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gboneu - 3-6-2016 at 16:50

Thank's long time no posting-
Whell but what can i do ? I have nitrobenzene in my lab. solvent's like perchloroethylene, chloroform,methanol, would work ?

gdflp - 3-6-2016 at 17:08

It is not possible to chlorinate nitrobenzene to 4-chloronitrobenzene under any conditions amenable to an amateur. The simplest way you can do it I mentioned in my previous post. You could reduce nitrobenzene to aniline, do a Sandmeyer to get chlorobenzene, then nitrate to get your target product, but that is somewhat roundabout. If nitrobenzene is the only aromatic compound you have access to, that's the only way you can do it.

PHILOU Zrealone - 4-6-2016 at 05:16

Alternatively you could reduce nitrobenzene to aminobenzene (aniline), then monohalogenate it, isolate p-chloroaniline and then do a Sandmeyer conversion of the diazonium salt into a nitro yielding your final product!
C6H5-NO2 -red-> C6H5-NH2
H2N-C6H5 --1 eq Cl2-> ClH3N-C6H4-Cl (ortho and para)
p-ClH3N-C6H4-Cl -NaNO2/Cu-> O2N-C6H4-Cl + NaCl + H2O + N2

gboneu - 4-6-2016 at 10:56

thanks everyone, i'm afraid that i'd tried the synthesis of aniline but i cant get good yields, add to that that the nitrobenzene i have is very expensive and i cant buy any more never again (ok maybe some day) my best yield was with the zinin reaction up to 50% but no more- i will se what i can do thanks :D

CuReUS - 4-6-2016 at 23:01

You could do this :
1.nitrobenzene to chlorobenzene - http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00247a042
2.chlorobenzene to 4-nitrochlorobenzene- http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1081/SCC-120014967

gboneu - 7-6-2016 at 10:15

heyy CuReUS Thank's !! But phosphorus pentachloride is IMPOSSIBLE for me. In Argentina where i Live Such compounds are impossible to get
:( Fuck my city, fuck my country, fuck everything... And Aniline hurt lik a litter for $500 u$s (here's in Pesos not in Dollars bur it hurt's just like it) I gess i will have to get aniline, And Sulfuric acid is prohibited. Yes i know. Chemistry is awesome here but thank's there are interesting articles =)

CuReUS - 8-6-2016 at 01:38

Quote: Originally posted by gboneu  
I guess i will have to get aniline

If you are getting aniline,then you could selectively monochlorinate it using this method that Philou found -http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3388862/
after that,you can oxidise the NH2 to NO2 like this -http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00285a027
But I am surprised as to why there are so many restrictions in argentina ? What are the people up to ? :D

PHILOU Zrealone - 8-6-2016 at 07:56

Quote: Originally posted by CuReUS  
Quote: Originally posted by gboneu  
I guess i will have to get aniline

If you are getting aniline,then you could selectively monochlorinate it using this method that Philou found -http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3388862/
after that,you can oxidise the NH2 to NO2 like this -http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00285a027
But I am surprised as to why there are so many restrictions in argentina ? What are the people up to ? :D

The document is already requested in request document folder.
Once available, I'll post the link here.

CuReUS - 9-6-2016 at 01:43

Quote: Originally posted by gboneu  
i'm afraid that i'd tried the synthesis of aniline but i cant get good yields... my best yield was with the zinin reaction up to 50% but no more

why don't you try the reduction using sodium dithionite,its an easy and high yielding way
http://www.orgsyn.org/demo.aspx?prep=CV3P0069

PHILOU Zrealone - 10-6-2016 at 06:16

Quote: Originally posted by PHILOU Zrealone  
Quote: Originally posted by CuReUS  
Quote: Originally posted by gboneu  
I guess i will have to get aniline

If you are getting aniline,then you could selectively monochlorinate it using this method that Philou found -http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3388862/
after that,you can oxidise the NH2 to NO2 like this -http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00285a027
But I am surprised as to why there are so many restrictions in argentina ? What are the people up to ? :D

The document is already requested in request document folder.
Once available, I'll post the link here.


Et voilà! Here is the requested document, thanks to Solo.
Requested documents in reference section by PHILOU Zrealone