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Best Vintage for HDD magnets

NEMO-Chemistry - 10-9-2016 at 12:42

Reading various threads on Neodymium from HDD magnets, it looks like the composition of the magnets has changed over time.

Weeks back i mentioned a computer shop that had closed and dumped a load of gear, in the lot i managed to bring home are some old HDD's.

From the size (storage capacity) and a few of the date codes on them, it looks like i have a few from late 80's right upto around 2005.

There isnt many of them but i wondered what age HDD's have the best magnets for Neodymium? I would like to have a go at extracting some Neodymium compounds, mainly Chloride.silphate and nitrate.

Cheers

RogueRose - 10-9-2016 at 18:51

last years of 5.25" HD's and the first years of 3.5" SCSI hard drives. They both had really large magnets

MrHomeScientist - 12-9-2016 at 07:00

The older they are, the more likely they are to have SmCo magnets rather than Nd. I ran into that a few times when I got excited about some very large magnets, then dissolved them in sulfuric acid only to get a green solution instead of a purple one! So large magnets may not necessarily be a good thing.

NEMO-Chemistry - 12-9-2016 at 08:40

Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  
The older they are, the more likely they are to have SmCo magnets rather than Nd. I ran into that a few times when I got excited about some very large magnets, then dissolved them in sulfuric acid only to get a green solution instead of a purple one! So large magnets may not necessarily be a good thing.


Ok so green = bad and pink = good! 2 really old ones look a nightmare to get into.

Deathunter88 - 12-9-2016 at 08:53

Quote: Originally posted by NEMO-Chemistry  
Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  
The older they are, the more likely they are to have SmCo magnets rather than Nd. I ran into that a few times when I got excited about some very large magnets, then dissolved them in sulfuric acid only to get a green solution instead of a purple one! So large magnets may not necessarily be a good thing.


Ok so green = bad and pink = good! 2 really old ones look a nightmare to get into.


Huh? Every time I've dissolved magnets it has resulted in a green solution but it still produced nice pink neodymium sulphate crystals.

MrHomeScientist - 12-9-2016 at 09:28

I'd guess the green was probably iron(II) in that case, although that is also what's in the purple/pink solutions. Usually the Nd color washes out any iron colors. Weird that it seems in some cases it doesn't. I'll admit I didn't try to process any of my green solutions, because I had plenty of purple/pink ones to go through. Sounds like a good experiment!

[Edited on 9-12-2016 by MrHomeScientist]

Mabus - 13-9-2016 at 09:20

At least one of the earliest types of HDD (a big one) I took apart some time ago had a typical AlNiCo/ferrite magnet, and ferrite (?) shielding. But they're easy to tell apart from Nd magnets: their color is black and don't react fast with acids.

Texium - 13-9-2016 at 09:38

Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  
Usually the Nd color washes out any iron colors.
That seems unlikely, being as the magnets contain far more iron than neodymium and the color of neodymium in solution is not incredibly strong.

Sulaiman - 13-9-2016 at 10:19

From memory;
washing machine sized drives used huge ferrite magnets
scsi used SmCo
PC HDD used SmCo then Nd
small hdd used Nd and now NdPr

[Edited on 13-9-2016 by Sulaiman]