Dr. Beaker - 19-12-2006 at 13:27
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for some info on those interactions.
I made 2 compounds and managed to crystalize them so I got their X-ray structures. in both of them there are 2 molecules as a single asymetric unit,
and in one a carbon and his hydrogen of a phenyl ring are almost in line with a nitrogen in a second molecule. there is 2.9 angstrom distans between H
and N (if I assume the C-H bond not changed).
in the 2nd case there's a methoxy group in which the oxygen is 2.5 angst. away from a hydrogen sitting on a Me group of a TMEDA moiety (of a second
molecule). the 3 atoms are also almost in line.
I have more evidences to support the interaction hypothesis but they're irrelevent to this question.
So, if someone have info on typical C-H-X (X = O,N) bond lengths and angles please tell me.
Thanx in advance!
P.s: real sorry I can't give you the full structure becouse it's unpublished data, and a patent candidate.
[Edited on 19-12-2006 by Dr. Beaker]
turd - 19-12-2006 at 15:19
printcif spits out hydrogen-bonding information.
Online version:
http://journals.iucr.org/services/cif/checking/printform.htm...
H...O in hydrogen-bonds is typically around 2Å, angles vary widely. I think 2.5Å or 2.9Å is too far away.
(But I'm not an organic chemist, so I wouldn't know)
Dr. Beaker - 19-12-2006 at 15:33
thanks for the info turd,
as I understand, this site help me make pdf images out of my cif files, but:
a. I don't need it since I see and analyze my files in chem3D
b. I don't want to upload unpublished data to some website.
but thanx anyway.
turd - 19-12-2006 at 19:49
The point is that the program has sensible defaults and will tell you if it thinks that there is hydrogen-bonding. (You were able to locate the
protons, isn't it?)
As for your fear of uploading your data: it's the official homepage of the IUCR, you can trust them. If you're still to paranoid, you can try to
download an offline version:
http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/cif/software/index.html
Dr. Beaker - 20-12-2006 at 00:27
that's something else..
I'll give it a try. (to the paranoid version).
thanks again