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Tetramine nickel chlorate

symboom - 29-3-2017 at 04:10

After working with tetramine nickel perchlorate which is insouble in water

The procedure
Nickel sulfate is reacted with sodium carbonate
To form nickel carbonate this is reacted with tartaric acid
To form soluble nickel tartarate this is the added to a hot solution of potassium chlorate to form insouble potassium tartrate.
nickel chlorate is then added to ammonia to form ammonium chlorate and nickel hydroxide then more ammonia to form tetramine nickel chlorate which should be insoluble


[Edited on 29-3-2017 by symboom]

myristicinaldehyde - 29-3-2017 at 04:11

Symboom, your post is blank.

symboom - 29-3-2017 at 04:20

Quote: Originally posted by myristicinaldehyde  
Symboom, your post is blank.


I know accidentally submitted
I guess I could still call it scary nickel complex which was what I was going to label it as

[Edited on 29-3-2017 by symboom]

PHILOU Zrealone - 29-3-2017 at 15:21

@Symboom,
If it is copper then it is tetracoordinated --> Copper tetramine chlorate
If it is nickel, cobalt, zinc, cadmium then it is hexacoordinated --> Nickel hexamine perchlorate or chlorate

From now on your post is only a previsional synthesis...beware that NH4ClO3 is already unstable...so the incorporation of a catalytic metallic core may increase this unstability so indeed to be considered scary.

Good luck and dont forget to post pictures and testing results of the obtained complex (flame sensitivity, heat confinement test, impact test)

symboom - 31-3-2017 at 20:14

Your right got do used to the copper complex just realized I have the wrong complex name title should be hexamine nickel chlorate unfortunately I cant change the title
It's a blue green precipitate very little formed I hate the potassium chlorate and ammonium tartrate method It flared up like black powder I think its impure going to try barium chlorate and mix it with the nickel sulfate then add ammonia


[Edited on 1-4-2017 by symboom]

[Edited on 1-4-2017 by symboom]

symboom - 6-7-2017 at 16:28

Stubborn complex

So I have been trying to make hexamine nickel chlorate
Then tried to make hexmethyleneamine nickel chlorate

And last but not least

Ethylamine nickel chlorate

Hexamethylene nickel chlorate solution added to ethanol white percipitate forms it Is energetic probally ammonium chlorate
Cant seem to get a metal chlorate complex
There has got to be more than hexamine nickel perchlorate

PHILOU Zrealone - 8-7-2017 at 04:01

Quote: Originally posted by symboom  
Stubborn complex

So I have been trying to make hexamine nickel chlorate
Then tried to make hexmethyleneamine nickel chlorate

And last but not least

Ethylamine nickel chlorate

Hexamethylene nickel chlorate solution added to ethanol white percipitate forms it Is energetic probally ammonium chlorate
Cant seem to get a metal chlorate complex
There has got to be more than hexamine nickel perchlorate

If it is white there is more than probably no nickel into the precipitate...nickel complexes and precipitates are usually colorfull.

Instead of (tetra or hexa) ethylamine nickel (II) chlorate
Ni(C2H5-NH2)4(H2O)2(ClO3)2
Ni(C2H5-NH2)6(ClO3)2
You should focus onto stronger complex of ethylenediamine...this will improve the oxygen balance.
Ni(H2N-C2H4-NH2)3(ClO3)2