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Alternative hobbies that appeal to those with interest in chemistry

Cou - 19-4-2017 at 14:26

Not everyone can pursue a chemistry passion for one reason or another: Inability to get into college for any reason, dumb laws making it risky, too scared to use dangerous chemicals, can't afford lab apparatus. Maybe you just like mixing chemicals together, you like making baking soda/vinegar volcanoes, but you're too dumb to understand the science/math behind it and figure out more advanced chemistry.

However, if chemistry sounds fun to you, there are other activities/hobbies with similar feels that are also fun if you give them a try.

I gave up on chemistry because I'm too lazy to pursue higher education, and I'm awful at english/history so I can't do college. I also live in texas, where it's illegal to buy glassware without an annoying permit process every time you want to order a new set.

Cooking: Ideal if you simply like to mix stuff together, but aren't into the math behind chemistry. I especially enjoy making spice mixes/blends (mixing together pure spices and herbs to make things like taco seasoning, curry), because I like to see how the color changes every time you add a new spice, and how the smells combine to make something completely new. For me it's just as fun as doing a fischer esterification.

Pharmacy technician: Alternate career path if you can't go to college. They only make 25-35k a year, lower end in retail, but it's kinda fun to mix IV bags and count pills, for some reason.

WGTR - 19-4-2017 at 15:20

Chemistry and electronics are related topics, and if for some reason one feels hindered in pursuing their passions in chemistry, it's possible to focus more on the electronics side of things.

There's no stigma associated with learning electronics (unlike amateur chemistry sometimes), and there are large online forums dedicated to various aspects of it, whether it's analog or digital design, programming, etc. You're located close to Mouser Electronics; if you order parts from them via ground shipping ($7), they'll arrive the next day.

Electronics appeals to many similar interests that chemistry does. It's possible to identify a problem, design a solution, verify that the results do what you want, and change the results by modifying some variable. There's a great amount of creativity involved, and if one is interested in programming, it's possible to buy pre-made evaluation boards. These types of boards can have peripherals already on them, such as Ethernet modules, blinking lights, switches, displays, etc., and the sky is really the limit to what one can do with the programming of these things. Programming appeals to some people, I think, because it's possible to make a small change, recompile, and then see the results immediately...instant gratification. A chemistry reaction may take hours or days to complete.

Alternately, one can experience the joys of mixing the two hobbies together, like I do, and having lots of fun in the process. It can also make you a ton of money later in life, even without a college degree, if you're self-motivated.

[Edited on 4-19-2017 by WGTR]

Deathunter88 - 19-4-2017 at 18:09

I'll list a few that I enjoy, and I have noticed a lot of other people into Chemistry also enjoy:

-Minecraft
-Metal working
-Laser building
-Woodworking
-Painting (houses and stuff)
-Plumbing
-General DIY

violet sin - 19-4-2017 at 18:50

Though I barely get to play chemist anymore, it is useful at times. Still have everything of course. Second kid on the way, so I'm busy with life all the time. Work and fam, top priorities always. But of course a guy's gotta have hobbies.

-electronics; as WGTR says, I find this quite fulfilling. Complex problems, intricate tasks, layout, openly accepted and all kinds of room for style! What's not to love. It has been fun to get back into this hobby, and seemingly safer as long as the iron gets unplugged :) learning to fix toys for the kiddo is money saver too.

-metal working; super fun and you can do interesting things with few tools at low cost. Of course the real fun opens up with more expensive tools, but you can actually make some money in the process. Several of my friends go to community center or each others shops weekly. They have all made trinkets, etc to cover the costs of the class time too.

-Gem and mineral society; lots of fun. Another place that has a ton of tools there to use, usually a great price on raw stone there if you have nothing of your own. Nice and peaceful too

-General fabrication, aka busy hands doing/building/making; just like working with your hands? Me too! Everything from art to home repair here applies. Refinishing wood, carving, painting, fixing, etc. Learning new stuff to make things happen can be the kind of thing that sets one apart from competition if equal trade related skills are had for the job at hand. I like to make function things that aren't ugly, but aren't just art :) tool maintenance is deffinitely included here.

Those are the four things that keep this guy going. They all Cary a certain level of creativity, problem solving, intricate work, complex thinking and I wouldn't have it any other way. Standard is just so boring.

Ohhh and gardening...

m1tanker78 - 19-4-2017 at 19:37

I'm with WGTR. Electronics is one of my [many] beloved hobbies. In fact, electronics and metalworking is what opened the door for me to learn a little bit of chemistry. It was the desire to make a better flux for soldering and brazing! I've acquired quite a good bit of glassware over the years and enjoyed a hands-on approach to learning chemistry (in a limited capacity).

IMO, if you make a career out of a beloved hobby, you end up despising it. If I'd taken a career in EE right out of school, I imagine it would be one of the last things I'd want to do at home.

On the flip side, too many hobbies and not enough hours in the day or years in a lifetime... :o

Cou - 19-4-2017 at 19:43

I still hold to the fact that cooking is the best alternative if you enjoy the hands-on mixing/playing part of chemistry more than the math/science studying part.

Twospoons - 19-4-2017 at 21:38

For me it was a toss-up between a career in chemistry or a career in electronics. Both were hobbies from a very young age. Electronics won, but I still play with some light-weight chemistry stuff. I was lucky enough to score a huge pile of free glassware 20 years ago, which has kept the chemistry interest alive.
I'm also into metal work and wood work, mostly for home improvement, but sometimes just for fun.

JJay - 19-4-2017 at 22:02

I am into statistics and advanced programming, music, civics, and a lot of other stuff... umm... definitely avoid smoking, gambling, boozing, womanizing (or exploiting men), driving too fast, drugs, or eating ice cream so quickly that you get a headache.

Deathunter88 - 19-4-2017 at 22:26

Quote: Originally posted by Cou  
I still hold to the fact that cooking is the best alternative if you enjoy the hands-on mixing/playing part of chemistry more than the math/science studying part.


I would argue that cooking doesn't offer enough depth for those of us who like to pursue things at depth.

Herr Haber - 20-4-2017 at 03:49

Quote: Originally posted by Deathunter88  
Quote: Originally posted by Cou  
I still hold to the fact that cooking is the best alternative if you enjoy the hands-on mixing/playing part of chemistry more than the math/science studying part.


I would argue that cooking doesn't offer enough depth for those of us who like to pursue things at depth.


As a child I discovered chemistry very early.
At some point I switched to electronics as a less destructive (especially for the carpet!) hobby. Shortly after I discovered computers. I've loved building them ever since.
Then, around 20 years ago I got my first Internet connection and learning chemistry became a lot easier.
Around the same time I got a lot more involved in caving.

I also went through cooking, mostly for health reasons and because I was unemployed.
Whenever I talk to someone about chemistry I tell them that it's not very different from getting a cooking book with a million recipies for "Soufflé".
Most people understand this fortunately.

phlogiston - 20-4-2017 at 05:45

I see a few patterns developing here.
I have pretty much the same list of hobbies: electronics, programming, rock hunting, building 'things' (out of wood, metal).
Also, rocketry was once a hobby.

I too now find myself using hobby skills mostly to fix toys and appliances and improve the house than for hobby projects.

[Edited on 20-4-2017 by phlogiston]

Texium - 20-4-2017 at 07:39

Well, chemistry is certainly my primary hobby, but I have others as well.

-Gardening. Probably my second favorite. I mainly like growing vegetables and herbs, because having a use for the stuff that I grow makes it more worthwhile for me. I need to build a fenced in garden at my new house though because the yard is a favorite place for herds of deer to hang out.

-Cooking. Now that I'm living alone cooking has been especially nice. It is sort of like chemistry, and to me it's therapeutic after a long day of classes or work.

-Geocaching. It's a really fun way to get out and explore, especially with friends. I've gone to a lot of parks and other places that I might not have otherwise.

-Playing the cello. I've been playing the cello for over seven years now (though I haven't really improved in skill over the last few). Busting out the Bach Suites now and then is pretty fun. I need to find some fresh music to play, though.

-Model rocketry. Started with rocket making kits when I was a little kid. I'm not really into the physics of rockets, so I haven't devoted any time to designing my own, but I still enjoy building the kits and launching them, though I don't have a suitable place to do so currently, so I haven't done any in a while.

Also if I ever have a chance to build anything for home improvement purposes I relish it, though I wouldn't really consider it a hobby.

MountainMan - 20-4-2017 at 10:25

I have combined my interests in chemistry, electrochemistry, mineralogy and electronics / microcontrollers.
Currently working on a microcontroller (Arduino) and SBC (Raspberry Pi) system to use as a fuel cell experimental workstation

Amos - 20-4-2017 at 10:33

I feel like cooking is accurate but baking in particular suits a chemist; you'd be amazed at how technical it is to bake bread or prepare classic pastries.

Homebrewing, wine or other alcohol tasting, and mixology are all things I'm starting to get into. Again there's the science and detail involved, plus I've noticed people in my field like to drink a lot ;)

I tend to occupy a pretty soft part of the chemistry sphere where I'm free to use my senses a lot and there's not a crazy amount of hard science, so maybe these only make sense to me. Some other hobbies of mine are drawing/painting, competitive gaming, hiking, running, and climbing. But I don't really see how the rest have much to do with being a chemist.

[Edited on 4-20-2017 by Amos]

Neme - 20-4-2017 at 12:29

I personally enjoy hydroponic growing. It's kinda fun for me playing with nutrient solutions and mesuring pH, conductivity et cetera.

cyanureeves - 20-4-2017 at 18:54

making colognes now is what i do mostly.adding oils to already made colognes like tobacco,oakmoss,ouds, etc.my lungs have taken a hell of a beating so i got rid of all my chems but kept my glass ware.love my glass ware! i now truly believe that elements combine to make compounds and that they have atomic weights and can be figured using math.i also know that some chems can make it damn hard to breathe and cause rapid heart rate.my favorite cologne is aramis.aahh! artemesia is so wonderful.

Boffis - 20-4-2017 at 23:38

An early interest in chemistry lead me into mineral collecting, initially as a source of some of the more obscure metal compounds. This soon proved impractical but I stuck with mineralogy and chemistry however, and ended up working in the mining industry pretty much ever since. A knowledge of these two fields being very helpful. Mineralogy and chemistry go hand in hand and I find it difficult to imagine how you can collect minerals without having access to an arsenal of chemical test, after all, I estimate that 20% of all the mineral specimens I have bought were incorrectly identified and a few simple chemical tests will often demonstrate this. This got me interested in microchemistry after reading a US Bureau of Mines publication about the identification of minute sulphide grains under the microscope by means of characteristic crystals that could be formed from them after solution in acid. This lead to the search for new organic microchemical reagent like the violuric acid derivatives and hence to an interest in organic chemistry generally and so on.

j_sum1 - 21-4-2017 at 02:58

I am surprised that no one has mentioned photography yet. I know that quite a few people here are keen photographers in both conventional (digital) formats and also more classical formats. I have had a dabble with pinhole cameras and cyanotypes and found it quite fun.

woelen - 21-4-2017 at 08:51

My other hobbies are
- electronics
- photography (@j_sum1: I also did early processes and chemical developing, but with the digital era I quit doing that)
- programming (I also did that as a professional, but the last few years I am more and more in consultancy and business analysis)
As with others, a very common combination of interests.

Actually, anything beta-ish I find interesting. Sometimes I also do mathematical things (e.g. see my last webpage on roots of polynomials) and doing fun experiments in physicals I also like very much.
Yet another thing I do is experimenting with investments and trading. At the moment I am experimenting with statistics-based investments in a set of different ETF's, using some spare money. I developed a tunable algorithm, which allows me to invest and trade in ETF's, with the property that the expected drawdown in a year's time will not exceed the expected interest rate over a long period. This allows for quite safe investments, while still having nice interest rates in the long run (in the order of 10% per year over a period of a few years).

I also really like to do is trying to make other people enthusiastic about certain subjects.

Praxichys - 21-4-2017 at 10:41

I also really like generating enthusiasm for chemistry in others. I helped a friend get into the essential oils business and his wife into soapmaking.

Outside of chemistry, my hobbies are:

- Playing guitar (I have an Ibanez RGIR30BE and a BlackStar ID:260TVP with a pedal board, trying to find an unpaid gig to do maybe once a month)
- Collecting firearms and shooting in competition. I have quite a few firearms and I'm getting into reloading.
- Offroading/camping/hiking/survival. I have the lifted Jeep and all that.
- Building computers and occasional gaming; writing AHK scripts to automatically dominate Minecraft server economies while I'm at work.

I also enjoy cooking, but even though I make a homemade dinner about every other day (I'm the one who cooks!), it's rare that I get to make a big, extravagant meal. I'm also starting a garden this year to try and generate some fresh vegetables and useful stuff for the lab.

TheNerdyFarmer - 21-4-2017 at 16:31

Some things I enjoy doing are:

Gaming(CSGO for life)
Blacksmithing
Woodworking (to go with blacksmithing)
Microbiology- (just looking at things under a microscope and describing them)
Working with electronics
Amateur engineering (such as my fantasised table top nuclear power plant)

Stuff like that.

m1tanker78 - 21-4-2017 at 17:48

One of my other interests is astronomy. When we go camping at a public place (such as a state park), I like to take my telescope and motorized tracking mount/tripod if the weather permits. Before long, I have a group of people who are curious about what we're up to or want to have a look. Young and old alike are attracted to the telescope. West Texas affords some amazing views of the night sky even without a telescope. One of my favorite clusters is the Pleiades. If there happens to be a full moon, I'll time a satellite transit across the lunar FOV and let one of the spectators see it through the telescope. "Don't blink or you'll miss it!"

If it's not the telescope when camping, sometimes I'll set up a long wire antenna, tuner and HF rig and make contacts around the world or just tune around and listen in on traffic. This also tends to amaze people. The long wire antenna is for portability more than anything. A lot of my gear is homemade.

I love competing in BBQ cook-offs (does that count as 'cooking'?) We basically hang around with a bunch of laid-back people, drink beer and peek in on the brisket (or whatever happens to be smoking) every half hour or so. I build my own smokers and pits for fun and take them to the competitions. Brisket is a challenging hunk of meat to get just right -- it takes many hours to smoke and consequently, many beers for endurance. :D

gluon47 - 21-4-2017 at 18:13

My main other hobby is lucid dreaming/oneironautics, but I'm also very interested in philosophy and classical music (I'm a pianist).

anewsoul - 21-4-2017 at 18:20

There's a lot of things I'd like to try my hand at like woodworking if I had the money and time to do so, but anyways some of my hobbies include
Running,
Cycling,
Playing music,
Cooking, as others have mentioned
Also I'm surprised no one has mentioned putting together model airplanes (unless I missed it). Did that a lot when I in highschool. It's a fun hobby, it takes a decent amount of skill and knowing special techniques to make realistic looking airplane models. Also once you get into it you get a good collection of solvents so you still get the enjoyment out of huffing organic solvents as you would doing chemistry :)

Assured Fish - 22-4-2017 at 00:47

How has nobody said this one yet... Glass Blowing
I realize you probably arn't gonna be able to make condensers or round bottom flasks in your garage without some serious equipment but with some didymium goggles a high oxy acetylene/propane torch and an annealer or furnace with controllable temperature, you could achieve a lot, such as making your own glass alembic or making your own gas bubblers or with the aid of some glass cutting equipment you could even fashion a makeshift separatory funnel out of a wine bottle, not to mention being able to repair some of those cracked condensers you have broken over the years.
Then don't even get me started on the purely artistic applications.

brubei - 22-4-2017 at 01:05

I'm member of a harm reduction organization about drug abuse.
Quote: Originally posted by gluon47  
My main other hobby is lucid dreaming/oneironautics
Same here :D

gluon47 - 22-4-2017 at 12:51

Cool! Nice to know there's another dreamer around on the forum:).

Dr.Bob - 25-4-2017 at 18:28

Wood working and other hands-on things are common among the chemists I know. Cooking and brewing are also common hobbies among my chemist friends. I like that in cooking I can eyeball things rather than easuring carefully and worrying about yields...

Used to like to code and build electronics, but just have not been able to keep up with it. Took jobs in both areas for a while back in college but just could not keep up with the changing technology now. Hard to find a good Fortran (Watfiv or 77), Pascal, Basic or 370 compiler anymore... And I can't figure out where to put the punched cards in my smart phone. And they replaced many of my npns with Mosfets, and I just don't get them as well. I even still have a few tubes left somewhere. Boy I feel old now...

Corrosive Joeseph - 25-4-2017 at 18:38

Gardening
Metalwork
Brewing
Playing music
Designing and building simple systems (fluid transfer, motors, pumps, heating elements, the usual DIY Hack stuff)
I built and modified quite a few cars in my youth, I'm surprized no-one has mentioned this one yet


/CJ

symboom - 25-4-2017 at 19:11

Glass blowing and glassworking
Electronics
They are in expanding projects involving chemistry
Welding
Blacksmithing
Metal casting
Rock collecting and minerology

[Edited on 26-4-2017 by symboom]

JJay - 25-4-2017 at 20:21

I think GNU Fortran is the best Fortran compiler these days... Microsoft has a Visual Fortran too I think. Fortran is still used for supercomputing research because it tends to be faster than everything else except for assembly language written by the very best programmers.

I mainly use C and C++ for numerical programming since it is almost as fast as Fortran and I'm not paying a hundred thousand dollars per hour for computing time. I've been known to play a few hacker wargames in my time (that's what they call it when someone sets up a computer for you to break into). Actually hacking anything is about as distasteful as breaking and entering, though - there are things you just don't do.

[Edited on 26-4-2017 by JJay]

DraconicAcid - 26-4-2017 at 11:25

I make wine.

The Volatile Chemist - 26-4-2017 at 15:19

Cool parallels in hobbies, for sure.

For me, definitely chemistry, rock-hounding, botany/gardening, music (piano mainly, also trombone), cooking, and electronics and programming to a lesser degree, usually having to do with other hobbies.

I feel like I would get into cooking, winery/meadery, and perhaps riflery in later years. I feel like I already have a lifetime of hobbies to eat away at my time though, so I'll probably just buy a Mosin Nagant and make mead every so often :P

karlos³ - 27-4-2017 at 14:49

For me, it is:

-botany, a lot more besides gardening, special interest in their chemistry and parasitic and aquatic/marine plant life
-reading novels, a whole lot, mostly the "hard" variety of science-fiction
-brewing fruit wines
-growing mushrooms
-cooking of course too, nearly every chemist is a dedicated cook too, surprisingly :D

I find it very interesting people mention lucid dreaming as their hobby, that is very cool and I appreciate it a lot.
My own experiments with lucid dreaming didn´t turned out so satisfying, it is interesting, but hard to achieve and generally, one has to know what to get out of it. I don´t. Although flying and having the weirdest sex ever is a cool thing to do, besides that the lucid kind of dreams are just useful tools for abortion of bad dreams for me.

nezza - 28-4-2017 at 23:43

Photography is my other main hobby with golf and badminton for sports. I am interested in just about any branch of science with astronomy and microscopy up there and I enjoy a bit of coding and electronics now and then. Basically I am the full science geek.

Archenemy_6 - 29-4-2017 at 17:47

Sometimes I think I have too many hobbies for my own good. Between a full time job, amateur chemistry, mycology, target shooting, project car building, motorcycle riding, gaming, and astronomy it's hard to find the time and money to keep everything going.
I also like to go to concerts and I watch a bunch of movies if those can be considered hobbies.
I've been wanting to get a camera for photography/video purposes
Maybe getting into model rocketry with sugar rockets and such. Maybe even one day building my own liquid fueled rocket.
I've been wanting to start a garden recently.
Glass blowing and programming some small devices would be awesome. There's just not enough hours in the day.

Panache - 2-5-2017 at 01:25

I like my dogs, they're ex racing greyhounds and are challenging to normalise.
I guess my main hobby after chemistry is buying shit on eBay etc and repurposing or selling it after stripping it.
I tend to stick with science medical and plastics stuff but food and pharma industry stuff is always cool.

tsathoggua1 - 3-5-2017 at 05:34

I reckon I'd be lost without chem/bio/pharmacology as a hobby. I do play videogames, and occasionally read fiction, but its not nearly so satisfying as cooking up something interesting, studying it, working on refining techniques, to nail down all the little fine details in getting a synthesis working perfectly, optimizing for yield etc.

And there is something else I'd definitely miss, when new reagent stocks and glassware/other equipment are coming in the mail its like being a little kid waiting for xmas again :D

Building DIY chem equipment, does that count?

Or if bored and there is nothing to do, then browsing pubmed, etc. until an interesting paper is found, or even wikipedia as a start point for new ideas and using sci-hub to crack the paywalls and build up my journal reference library.

Think this year might just be the time to get further on with my ergot project, wild-type Claviceps sclerotia (C.purpurea, have been on the lookout for C.paspali but have never managed to find any, and that, I'd dare not order from a strain library. Have seen C.fusiformis growing but until I get to the point where genetic experiments would be called for, C.fusiformis is not of much use, since it has evolved a loss-of-function mutation in the ergot alkaloid biosynthetic pathway which results in its producing only clavine alkaloids. That said, it may be useful for culture for use in feeding xenobiotic clavines to C.purpurea, in order to boost alkaloid production of the ergopeptides and simple lysergamide type alkaloids.

Seen some rather...odd..looking sclerotia, in one particular location also, which are narrow, elongated and triangular, with a deep groove down the faces, unlike any other C.purpurea sclerotia I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a lot of them), suspect possibly C.sulcata. Got myself a hardcopy edition of Kren and Kvac's 'The Genus Claviceps', a bargain at about $38-39, thought I'd have to be stuck with a pirated online copy in .PDF format there, since it often sells for over £/$100, and I could only work if I can find something located nearby, as I can't drive (seizures) and after a crippling injury in childhood, made worse by a pack of shitheads stamping on my knee, face and other places I don't even want to think about, can't walk far without a lot of pain. Not that easy to get a job either since nobody since school leaving age ever gave me a chance, and without a work history people are even less willing. How does one GET a work history, when you need a work history to get a job? cyclic pain in the arse. Also I now often have to wear an eyepatch, after being nearly blinded, after LE tampered with something in the lab, and there was an ugly accident with alkali metal amides, superheated steam and caustic, was wearing goggles at the time, but the result hit me in the face at just the wrong angle, and with sufficient force after building up a lot of pressure inside a vessel to near enough knock them off my head.

Although the other day I did have a couple of women sorta hit on me because they liked the look, it does at least look stylish with a black leather trench and big goth boots or combat boots. (although autie girls are more my type though, generally speaking)

For a time, went to a kinda group meetup thing of that nature, thinking of going back, ended up dating two girls from there, one autistic/MR the other autistic, and damned, two of the best relationships I've ever had. The latter of the two, I almost ended up marrying. Wish to this day I had. Actually thats part, a large part, of the reason I intend on rejoining the group, to see if that particular girl is still there. Haven't seen her since she was about 14, many, many years ago, but she made quite the impression. Ever meet somebody you just can't forget? didn't believe in love at first sight until I met lady C (to give her some privacy, won't give her full name out online of course), but this girl was something special. Have spent the rest of my life feeling as though missing a limb. Just..one of, of anyone I've ever been with, the two most amazing people I've ever known. The other being, of all people, a stalker, again, autistic, this time, 49-50, looks about 30, damned smart and absolutely stunning. She is the only other person I've ever known, who has actually known about it, that I'd have wanted to grow old with.

Still keep in contact with her though, even after the relationship was not to be (complicated situation, downright ugly one, involving a lodger coming between us. Not in a relationship sense, I am no cheater, rather, she was, and without a doubt still is, a psychopath/sociopath, borderline hell-bitch whos only conceivable use to mankind would be to be impaled on a long metal spike and attached to a church roof should they ever need a replacement lightening conductor. A real nasty piece of work, thief, psycho, nightmare festering gorgon-whore from the blackest abyss in tartarus, who, in the end, attempted to gut me with a katana, at which point, I sent her packing, or rather, just threw her out of the door whilst I searched her stuff, and found out she'd been, in between fouling up a relationship with one of the most wonderful women I've ever had the honor of knowing, probably being a vengeful, attention-seeking little bitch, and spending her time making certainly one, and probably two (not that I knew it at the time of course) false rape claims against other guys. Claimed one of them had drugged and raped her, when she had planned to fuck the guy from before he even ARRIVED here, and I'd watched her cook the pot brownies.Possibly tried to poison me with amatoxins (luckily for me, I'm decidedly thorough when it comes to another hobby of mine, mycology.)

Actually, mycology, along with botany, is where I started out ending up with chemistry and bio as a hobby. I'm told by the living side of my grandparents, that I was 3 at the time I picked up a mycology textbook and started teaching them about what was good to eat and what species are toxic, how and why. Maybe 4 actually, but 3-4, using an old microscope of my father's, big clunky old brass job that must be an antique, interest in the reagent tests for field use in making IDs, as well as (and this puzzled me until the time I eventually got access to the net, and wikipedia) wanting to know the chemistry behind blueing in an Amanita muscaria-based intoxicant brew I'd been preparing. No, you heard right, blueing in an Amanita preparation, not in live or freshly picked Psilocybe species or other tryptamine-bearing fungi.

Turns out that the species hyperaccumulates vanadium, and Amanita muscaria forms a novel octacoordinate vanadium coordination complex, where a central V atom is coordinated to six oxygen atoms and a pair of nitogens, thought possibly to serve as a peroxidase, and the anion of which is a deep cobalt glass blue color. I've been meaning to store up and dry out the stem tissue of the mushrooms for the next few years' harvests, since I go out yearly several times, and build up as large a store of dried caps as I can, although the gill and stem tissue I normally throw out as worthless in the latter case, or with the gills there is a lot of water content that comes out and makes the mushrooms difficult to cure (to decarboxylate the toxic ibotenic acid to muscimol, never tried to use them fresh, but its well known to sicken people rather than intoxicate, although that isn't my primary use for them, rather, I either brew a medicinal tea out of them, that helps inure to cold, against aches and fatigue, or use them along with a parasitic mushroom that associates with the mycelial network of the Amanita, a species related to the genus Boletus, Chalciporus piperatus, the peppery bolete. The pair of them together, once the fly agarics are given a gentle slow heat-curing and dried out, give a wonderful kick to meat dishes, particularly beef. I always add a couple of spoonfuls of dried, powdered fly agaric, and the dried boletes, whizzed up in a spice grinder to a pot of chili con carne, along with a few other weird and wonderful spices, also to sprinkle on a piece of steak being fried (the steak spice, for other cooks, is a mixture of cubeb [piper cubeba] szechuan pepper, which has the most peculiar numbing effect on the mouth and allows for the use of far fierier chilli peppers than would otherwise be tolerable], various chillies, black pepper, water pepper (a Polygonum species, related to bistort), pink peppercorns (Schinus, a species of sumac, IIRC), the amanita and peppery boletes, the contents of a few cardamom pods, pounded in a mortar, and then used to mix a marinade of the above in about equal proportions of habanero tabasco sauce, worcestershire sauce and dark, aged soy sauce and a pounded garlic clove, or part of one, depending on the tastes of the consumer, as well as being dried and sprinkled over the top of the steaks before brushing with oil, searing either side then slow-frying until the meat just falls to bits in the mouth.

Absolutely delicious.
This year though I'm going to start dessicating and keeping what would otherwise be dross, to see if I can extract and crystallize the vanadium complex.

diggit - 15-5-2017 at 05:28

Alternative medicine. Mainly, I reverse "rube-goldberg" it until I get something so simple it seems impossible. Like indigestion - After supporting the manufacturer of Rolaids for about 3 decades and exploring all of the ideas regarding a single cause of a multitude of ills, it turns out 2 glasses of water will do the trick. I haven't had indigestion in over 10 years - not since I drank those first two glasses of water. Instant relief. Same with migraines. Since I decided to approach the indigestion as an indicator of dehydration, I have not had a single migraine when I used to have 3 or 4 incapacitating migraines per month. Being a coffee, rather than water, drinker, I really had to choke down that first glass but the second went down with no problem. And I've been drinking water ever since. Not enough, probably, but enough to not have indigestion or migraines.

All of my interest in chemistry is a sort of chemical minimalism. Currently, I'm trying to figure out how the mineral buildup in my Keurig coffee maker cleared itself up. I use the Keurig as a non-boiled hot water source and water is of particular interest to me but this phenomenon has left me with nothing much to experiment with, LOL. I'm thinking about hacking my water heater so I can source it with a variety of waters in various states AND monitor the thickness of mineral deposits.

The only thing I can think of that it might have been was water filtered through the Berkey (which all of my water is) that would ordinarily drip straight out as when it's filtering I lock the spigot open so it drops straight into a 1 gallon glass jar BUT, about a week ago, the rubberband I was using to keep the spigot open broke so the reservoir of the Berkey filled with water which I then funneled straight into the 1 gallon glass jug I use to feed the Keurig through a high-speed filter funnel I recently bought. And since it ran out instead of dripped out, it had a pretty good vortex going as it drained into the jug. It doesn't seem possible that a single gallon of water run through a boiler - even one as small as a single cup coffee maker - could clean it out but...I don't know - it was a pretty dang interesting turn of events! The Keurig is 9 years old and on its last legs - or so I thought - giving only about 2 ounces per for several months. But now it's giving it's full volume (12 ounces). One minute it's spitting out 2 or 3 ounces and the next it's overfilling a 150 ml beaker and running all over the counter and onto the floor.

It's things like this that probably makes my daughter think I'm nuts. Who else would be amazed and excited about water overflowing onto the counter? And then just run water through a coffee maker, over and over again? For no apparent reason? ROFL! But, then again, she's an accountant which is a whole other kinda geek. But I love her to bits because she is NOT an eye-roller! She never rolls her eyes - no matter what I do. That alone qualifies her as a "good kid". Of course, she's 40 so - not really a kid...