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Phenol

Vinylogous - 29-5-2017 at 17:45

I'm looking to get 100-1000 mL of phenol. Now, I could get it for about $30 / 100 mL online (eBay and whatnot), but that just feels a bit steep, given that millions of metric tons of the stuff are produced a year! Just the principle of it!

Is there not any cheaper source of it?

Dr.Bob - 29-5-2017 at 18:10

For small amounts, that is pretty reasonable. Many chemicals are made by the ton, but still cost a lot for small amounts. Just the shipping fees from most chemical companies would be $50 per bottle.

Cryolite. - 29-5-2017 at 20:03

You could always make it by decarboxylating salicylic acid. The process has been documented in Prepublication on this forum.

Praxichys - 30-5-2017 at 05:00

I was going to suggest the same. I have done it myself in fair yield. Salicylic acid usually runs around $50/kg, and that will make 680g of phenol at 100% yield, giving you $7.35/100ml.

A more realistic 75% yield brings that to $9.80/100ml. That's nice and cheap, but realize that this prep is time-consuming, smelly, and needs to be baby-sat. Some applications also allow phenol to be directly substituted for salicylic acid; picric acid is an example.

Vinylogous - 31-5-2017 at 05:47

The use is as a disinfectant/bacteriostat for a solution (DIY sublingual immunotherapy drops). The decarboxylation route might actually be perfect for this.