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Clemmensen reduction methylone to mdma?

conducter - 31-1-2007 at 15:35

i am not that damn smart but after lots of studying i have some questions which are all theoretical as drug making is not what swim does.

The reduction of Methcathinone to Methamphetamine would be the Clemmensen Reduction.

i wonder if Methylenedioxy-Methcathinone (Methylone) would be reduced to Methylenedioxy-Methamphetamine (MDMA) by using the Clemmensen reduction to remove the beta-ketone without hurting the methylenedioxy bridge.

Even if the reaction only gave 10-30% i think it would theoretically be perfect for some people.

Although expensive, Methylone is available.

A few more questions are

1. Would just Zn metal be usable or is Zn amalgam needed?

2. id love to know more aobut this reaction and how it could work on methylone to mdma

kclo4 - 31-1-2007 at 17:47

hello good sir, guess what doesn't belong at this forum?

conducter - 31-1-2007 at 18:43

hypothetical reactions? not sure what i did wrong but am sorry if its against the rules

conducter - 1-2-2007 at 10:21

yeah i thought the clemmensen because of its acidic environment would hurt the methylenedioxy bridge.

wolff kishner probably alot better

Sergei_Eisenstein - 1-2-2007 at 10:51

How do you avoid self-condensation?

omegapoint - 27-12-2010 at 00:47

Quote: Originally posted by conducter  
i am not that damn smart but after lots of studying i have some questions which are all theoretical as drug making is not what swim does.

The reduction of Methcathinone to Methamphetamine would be the Clemmensen Reduction.

i wonder if Methylenedioxy-Methcathinone (Methylone) would be reduced to Methylenedioxy-Methamphetamine (MDMA) by using the Clemmensen reduction to remove the beta-ketone without hurting the methylenedioxy bridge.

Even if the reaction only gave 10-30% i think it would theoretically be perfect for some people.

Although expensive, Methylone is available.

A few more questions are

1. Would just Zn metal be usable or is Zn amalgam needed?

2. id love to know more aobut this reaction and how it could work on methylone to mdma


CAN YOU PLEASE EMAIL ME AT *********@*****.*** and tell me if/how this works? Thanks.

Will not actually do anything like this but am curious. Thanks.

<sub>Edit by Nicodem: Removed the email address from this tasteless wannabe solicitation in crime.</sub>

[Edited on 28/12/2010 by Nicodem]

Ephoton - 27-12-2010 at 00:50

this is as bad as trying to sell reagents on wetdreams.

look into Wolff-Kishner and piss off.

woelen - 27-12-2010 at 07:11

Quote: Originally posted by conducter  
i am not that damn smart but after lots of studying i have some questions which are all theoretical as drug making is not what swim does.
It's way too cold here for swimming in this time of year. You'd better take off and go swimming somewhere else.

crazedguy - 27-12-2010 at 07:55

You have been a member since 2006 and haven't figured out this isn't a drug forum?

turd - 27-12-2010 at 09:02

What is more embarrassing - to SWIM or to patronize a posting from 4(!) years ago? :P

[Edited on 27-12-2010 by turd]