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Synthsys of 2-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy benzaldehyde

tetraiodide - 8-6-2018 at 15:42

I'm working on creating 2-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy benzaldehyde from 3,4-dimethoxyphenol. (created by methylation then oxidation of vanillin) what in trying to predict is if I'm using a reimer-timann or duff formylation, which side of the hydroxyl it will most likely attack, if there's a way to increase the yeld of the 2-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy product over the 2,3-methoxy-6-hydroxy byproduct. Does anyone know how to predict that? I'm also open to suggestions for other formylation reactions if anyone knows of more selective or higher yealding options.

Also, FIRST POST WOO!

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CuReUS - 8-6-2018 at 21:31

Both should give you what you want.If you want ease of synthesis,do RT.For higher yield,go for duff.
another method using DMF - https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja9050444

tetraiodide - 9-6-2018 at 19:53

Quote: Originally posted by CuReUS  
Both should give you what you want.If you want ease of synthesis,do RT.For higher yield,go for duff.
another method using DMF - https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja9050444


That's an idea, although I started to look at other synthsyses of coumarin and realised it would be a lot easier to synth 6-bromo veratraldehyde from vanillin and then do the copper catalyzed conversion to the phenol instead, it may be better yealding as well.

CuReUS - 9-6-2018 at 23:11

Quote: Originally posted by tetraiodide  
I started to look at other synthsyses of coumarin and realised it would be a lot easier to synth 6-bromo veratraldehyde from vanillin and then do the copper catalyzed conversion to the phenol instead

you can make coumarin from vanillin in 3 steps-
1.methylate the OH -
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004040201...
2.Convert the CHO to OH -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004040200...
3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechmann_condensation

alternatively,you can make it in one step from esculetin-https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cmdc.2010002...
esculetin -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesculetin
extraction-https://www.cabdirect.org/cabdirect/abstract/20133050853

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tetraiodide - 10-6-2018 at 10:41

Quote: Originally posted by CuReUS  
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you can make coumarin from vanillin in 3 steps-
1.methylate the OH -
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004040201...
2.Convert the CHO to OH -https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004040200...
3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechmann_condensation

alternatively,you can make it in one step from esculetin-https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cmdc.2010002...
esculetin -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesculetin
extraction-https://www.cabdirect.org/cabdirect/abstract/20133050853

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I actully wasn't planing on synthesizing coumarin, it's just that your post made me realise that my target was a potential intermediate in it's synthesis so I just started looking there. Although I just may give it a try, highly florescent compounds have always fascinated me.

CuReUS - 10-6-2018 at 23:47

Quote: Originally posted by tetraiodide  
it's just that your post made me realise that my target was a potential intermediate in it's synthesis so I just started looking there.

I don't understand.What's you target compound ?

Waffles SS - 16-6-2018 at 12:02

All possible way for synthesis 2-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxy benzaldehyde By reaxys

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