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Sodium (or Potassium) Sarcosinate

akinmad - 24-7-2003 at 14:20

I got some information about synthesizing Sodium sarcosinate from formaldehyde, sodium cyanide and methyl amin. However, I cannot find any information regarding such parameters as any involvement of catalyst, reaction temperature, pressure. etc.

Anybody out there knows these parameters.

[Edited on 24-7-2003 by akinmad]

inFinie - 13-8-2003 at 10:54

Where {Na|K} sarcosinate is used?

It is used in

akinmad - 13-8-2003 at 13:38

production of creatine production. Creatine is a natural substance normally found in muscles, which is consumed during work out. Now it is synthetically produced. Although I found a great deal of information about its manufacture. I could not find any information regarding process parameters. :(

Forgot to add that creatine used by body builders.:)


Regards,
:):):)

[Edited on 13-8-2003 by akinmad]

BASF - 22-8-2003 at 05:30

Wanna get tall and strong? :P:);)

Yeah

akinmad - 22-8-2003 at 14:13

Not only tall and strong but also I like sports and chemistry. So I thought if I can do some other things in chemistry, why not synthesize creatine and use it my sports activities.

Regards,
:):o:):o

Lugh - 24-8-2003 at 05:40

IIRC also handy for masking the effects of flushing your system before a drugs test.
Flushing with water lowers levels in urine.

vulture - 24-8-2003 at 12:13

You're going to consume it?
A homemade substance with the following precursors:

- sodium cyanide
- methylamine
- formaldehyde

all toxic?

You'd better extract and wash your product VERY thoroughly.

Blind Angel - 24-8-2003 at 13:15

didn't we wanted to make DNP not so long ago?

akinmad - 24-8-2003 at 14:10

Quote:
Originally posted by vulture
You're going to consume it?
A homemade substance with the following precursors:

- sodium cyanide
- methylamine
- formaldehyde

all toxic?

You'd better extract and wash your product VERY thoroughly.


You may bet on it!...

:D;):D;)

chemoleo - 10-9-2003 at 18:48

wow, you must be mad!!!
any chemical reaction will produce side products, and even if they are minute they still may have a high level of toxicity!! Wouldnt try this myself, consuming chemicals you have created, as you never know the side products! This is not as straightforward as NaOH and HCl - and even in that case i wouldnt consume it, you simply dont know what kind of other salts are produced!
Always wondered, how do those drug makers of ecstasy etc dare it? i would never try, once again for the same reason! am I overly cautious?

Quite Mad

akinmad - 11-9-2003 at 11:33

Any way! You know this is science madness.

:D:D:D:D

And all organic chemistry reactions have some risks in it. :(:(:(

[Edited on 11-9-2003 by akinmad]