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Lambda-Eyde - 28-2-2012 at 08:58

500 g phthalic anhydride and 250 g magnesium turnings from eBay - 21 £. :)

Hexavalent - 28-2-2012 at 12:54

500ml 2-butanone, 500ml 37% Hydrochloric acid

LanthanumK - 28-2-2012 at 17:35

10 grams calcium, 2 grams indium, 1 gram beryllium, 4x4 inch titanium foil.

Mailinmypocket - 31-3-2012 at 17:50

Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  
Hooray for buying stuff in Canada!


I know! Awesomeness! I just ordered two items which I have no real use for per-se but I see them as chemical collectibles ;)

5g Denatonium Saccharide (extremely/insanely bitter)
1g Nonivamide (synthetic variant of Capsaicin)

Of course as soon as these are received I will stupidly taste test a small dust particle of each for fun hehe

barley81 - 31-3-2012 at 18:45

1lb Mg granules (99.8%, -50+100 mesh)
1lb KMnO<sub>4</sub>
1lb benzoic acid
1lb polyvinyl alcohol
Total order, inc. shipping - $44.58

From my awesome chemistry teacher, hopefully:
Phthalic anhydride
t-butanol
conc. ammonia

Mailinmypocket - 4-4-2012 at 15:27

Quote: Originally posted by barley81  
1lb Mg granules (99.8%, -50+100 mesh)
1lb KMnO<sub>4</sub>
1lb benzoic acid
1lb polyvinyl alcohol
Total order, inc. shipping - $44.58

From my awesome chemistry teacher, hopefully:
Phthalic anhydride
t-butanol
conc. ammonia


t-butanol! That would be wicked, Ive been searching for some for the longest time and cant find any through my usual supply companies :(

I guess because its spring im doing some spring chemical shopping because I ordered yet again, some are relatively basic things that I cant seem to find anywhere locally:

Malonic acid, 25g Reagent, : This is mainly for demos for friends lol, I am determined to show them the belousov zhabotinsky reaction!

Conc. NH4OH 500ml Reagent: Because these days household ammonia has became about as potent as watered down cat piss with perhaps some lemon perfume in it to make it even less useful for home chemistry.... I had to bite the bullet on this one... 28$ :(

Potassium Iodate 100g reagent: One of the uses will be for the belousov reaction, I know I can make iodate rather easily but im lazy ;) plus its a useful reagent

Conc HCl 500ml reagent: I must have 6 litres of hardware store muriatic, that being said I feel a bit silly paying so much for a small amount but I do need some HCl free of metal contamination for delicate experiments etc.

It annoyed me that I had to purchase reagent grade of this:

CAMPHOR ACS 100g for 15$- I am only 26 yrs old but I remember buying camphor blocks in almost every pharmacy, they were always in some infrequently used low traffic areas of the pharmacies, but they were there! I asked the pharmacist and she said that the company doesnt offer it anymore due to easier to use OTC creams and vapo rubs and god knows what else, of course. Then she told me to check the hardware store... I just came back home.

Also got an eyewash station, Corning PC-420D stir/hotplate (to replace my older PMC hotplate), various brushes, clearance kimax glassware, filter papers, ph papers, 1/4 lb of glass tubing, wash bottles pre-labelled for ethanol, methanol and isopropanol which I love! A second lab stand and some bossheads, glass funnel, claisen adapter and various adapters and a few other things I cant remember... feels like Christmas in April! minus my visa statement when it comes... :S



[Edited on 4-4-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

barley81 - 5-4-2012 at 12:19

Quote: Originally posted by barley81  
1lb Mg granules (99.8%, -50+100 mesh)
1lb KMnO<sub>4</sub>
1lb benzoic acid
1lb polyvinyl alcohol
Total order, inc. shipping - $44.58

From my awesome chemistry teacher, hopefully:
Phthalic anhydride
t-butanol
conc. ammonia


I ended up getting this from the teacher:
500mL t-BuOH
500g phthalic anhydride
454g hydroquinone
4L conc. NH<sub>3</sub>
2.5L GR sulfuric acid
Two lumps of silicon

I'm soooo excited!!!!! Yippeee!!!

99chemicals - 29-7-2012 at 18:17

I have not had a large order recently but just smaller orders.

1 lb KMnO4
5 lb KNO3
4 oz. Mn metal lumps. They are very pretty crystalline lumps for my element collection.
1 gal 30% H2O2
4 oz KClO3
2 oz KI
2 oz ammonium dichromate
some gibberellelic acid sol.
Barium carbonate
1 oz CaO
1 oz LiCl

Pyro - 30-7-2012 at 03:49

1kg silicon powder (min order)
1kg sodium
500g Red phosphorus
50cm vigreux column
500g potassium dichromate
100g mercury
2x 100ml sep funnel
2x 250ml sep funnel
1Kg poassium permanganate
500g potassium iodide
500g resorcinol
25g Phenolophtalein
2kg sodium bromide
that's it for now,
i have bought a lot of many things, this is because of MOQ's i will sell what i really cant use.

thanos thanatos - 30-7-2012 at 07:37


Most recent purchases (not in any particular order):

3g Ir metal
2g Ru metal
500g Mg, fine shavings
1 lb Na
250g Ga
1 Troy oz Rh sponge
500g Norit decolorizing carbon - neutral
500g P2O5
1L benzene, puriss
250g AlCl3 (anhydrous)
113.4g CuSO4 (anhydrous)
250g Na2WO4
500g LiAlH4
500g LiNH2
200 Li
1kg NH4F
100g Bio Beads SM-2
100g trimethysulfonium iodide
100g benzyltriethylammonium bromide
1kg KOH
250g BHT
500g NaIO4
500g TBHQ
2 lbs NH4Cl
2 liters tert-butanol
2kg NaSO4 (anhydrous)
500g Hg
5g PdCl2
2 liters Et2O
500ml CCl4
1 liter CHCl3
1 gal CH2Cl2
1 liter n-hexane
100g HONH2 HCl
1kg KMnO4
250g benzoyl peroxide, 98%
500 CH3CONH2
500g Fe, reduced powdered
250g Hg(NO3)2
2kg NaNO2

Hexavalent - 30-7-2012 at 09:38

Jeee-sus! How much did all of this come to?

Mailinmypocket - 30-7-2012 at 12:01

Thats AWESOME!

I just got 3 lbs NaOH(boring) and 25g thallium which was kind of neat to find :)

thanos thanatos - 31-7-2012 at 11:25

Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
Jeee-sus! How much did all of this come to?


I'm not sure, nor am I sure I wan't to know :cool:. These were acquired mostly as numerous small orders, although most of the metals were from 2 orders and most of organic compounds (minus the solvents) were in one order, which totalled about $650, although that included shipping (which is always significant for reagents, esp. with hazmat items in different categories having to ship separately).

The total is dominated by the Troy oz. of rhodium sponge, which was about $1350, and required a bank wire transfer. Still, it was only $50 above the rhodium spot price at the time, and compared to the retail prices for relatively small amounts of rhodium compounds (or worse, rhodium-based organometallic catalysts), it seems like a good value. The rhodium is 99.995% pure and is very finely powdered, so it's in ideal condition as a starting material for chemical manipulation to produce one's own rhodium catalysts.

And, before anybody asks, no, I'm not interested in selling any rhodium, or any of my other chemicals, for that matter.

Hexavalent - 31-7-2012 at 11:29

Wow....you must surely be a footballer?:)

thanos thanatos - 31-7-2012 at 18:59

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Thats AWESOME!

I just got 3 lbs NaOH(boring) and 25g thallium which was kind of neat to find :)


If you don't mind telling us, what's the appeal of the thallium? I guess I can understand if you're an element collector. Is that why? Other than for that purpose, I can't think of any reason why anybody would want that stuff. It's highly toxic, moreso than, say mercury, and is a persistent environmental hazard. I also can't think of any useful chemical properties of the metal or it's compounds that are unique to them and not substitutable by less toxic reagents.

Maybe I'm missing something that makes thallium appealing for more than the collector or the poison maker. If so, what is it?

Mailinmypocket - 31-7-2012 at 20:54

Purely for element collecting purposes, gallium source just started carrying it recently and I've always wanted a sample just for show :)

http://www.mcssl.com/store/gallium-source/029---thallium-met...

[Edited on 1-8-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

thanos thanatos - 1-8-2012 at 07:08

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Purely for element collecting purposes, gallium source just started carrying it recently and I've always wanted a sample just for show :)

http://www.mcssl.com/store/gallium-source/029---thallium-met...

[Edited on 1-8-2012 by Mailinmypocket]


That's what I figured. Thinking back over all the old Organic Synthesis papers I've read, online or otherwise, lots of them utilized one or more highly toxic elements (or compounds of those elements), but I don't recall any that used thallium or thallium salts. It certainly wasn't because the authors feared it's toxicity. Some toxic elements are routinely employed: arsenic, selenium, mercury, lead, barium, nickel, hexavalent chromium, etc. Thallium just doesn't seem useful enough to overcome it's inherent dangers. It isn't useless - just search online and lots of chemical or metallurgical uses pop up. It just isn't that useful in the organic chemistry lab.

This reminds me that I forgot a few recent purchases:

100g ThO2
500g Th(NO3)4 * 4H20
50g Br

The nitrate I bought because I got such a good deal on it - a little over $50. If you search around for thorium salts, you'll see what I mean. The oxide, usually called thoria in old chemistry papers, is the more useful compound, IMHO.

Eliteforum - 1-8-2012 at 11:41

1kg yellow cake uranium.

liquidlightning - 2-8-2012 at 01:04

450g NaNO2, 99.6%
500ml 31.74& HCl, tech grade, yellow (need to distill it)
1000ml 30% H2SO4
500ml 30% H2O2
8 oz Drierite (calcium sulfate, cobalt chloride) Nice dessicant, turns red when wet, heat until blue to dry.

woelen - 3-8-2012 at 12:04

Maybe not really spectacular, but rare:

250 grams of sodium phosphite, Na2HPO3.5H2O

Phosphates and sodium hypophosphite are easy to obtain, but phosphite was very hard for me to find, but now I finally have some.

The stuff arrived today, if I have done interesting experiments with this, then I'll certainly add them to my website.


[Edited on 3-8-12 by woelen]

barley81 - 3-8-2012 at 22:16

454g CaO
454g FeCl<sub>3</sub> anhydrous
200g W powder
454g Ca(OH)<sub>2</sub> (pickling lime from grocery)

Hexavalent - 4-8-2012 at 06:20

Very nice, woelen and barley81.

barley: where did you get your tungsten from?

Siggebo - 4-8-2012 at 06:47

I just ordered a pair of platinum electrodes - the school lab, rod variety usual with Pb, Cu and whatnot. Paid about 23 €, don't know if I made a mistake yet but they were on sale (50% :o) from a reliable supplier.

Also got 10 PE one-litre bottles for cheap while I was at it, and some lead strips.

barley81 - 4-8-2012 at 11:34

@Hexavalent,
The tungsten is from eBay. 200g cost me $20 shipped. You should be able to buy it (there are European sellers). It is used for adjusting the floppiness of dog ears (cruel use).

Hexavalent - 4-8-2012 at 11:49

Good value, but I have to agree about its use.

Just out of curiosity, do you know just how it does alter the floppiness of dog ears?

barley81 - 4-8-2012 at 11:50

It weighs them down. Typically the tungsten powder is attached using paraffin wax containing a small amount of iodine.

Rogeryermaw - 5-8-2012 at 10:52

toluene, potassium permanganate and a set of new beakers.

Vargouille - 5-8-2012 at 11:36

Ammonium dichromate, potassium chromate, potassium permanganate, sodium carbonate, and salicylic acid. 30g for all except the carbonate, which is 100g.

Pyro - 5-8-2012 at 12:06

1Kg potassium chlorate
1Kg potassium nitrate
1Kg boric acid
1Kg magnesium powder (rough powder)
5Kg oxalic acid (wood bleaching)
500g strontium nitrate
Soxhlet extractor and condenser
50cm allihn condenser
1l RBF
A whole bunch of beakers (50ml-2000ml)
some flasks
1L benzene
288 5ml ampules
10ml measuring cilinder
20ml '' ''
500ml '' ''
lots of stir bars
watch glasses and petri dishes
some volumetric pipettes
1Kg silicon powder
100g molybdenum powder
1L glacial acetic acid
1troy ounce silver
measuring flasks
and more is on the way :)

Siggebo - 15-8-2012 at 08:01

Last week I got a 150g jar of fine Mg turnings in my mailbox. Today I found some sulfur at a store, thought "what the heck" and bought it. Turns out it was incorrectly labeled at the shelf, paid 75% of the supposed price because I pointed it out at the counter :)

Mailinmypocket - 15-8-2012 at 11:40

100g phenol crystals
25g 1, 10 phenanthroline hydrate
500g calcium oxide
500g copper acetate
100g lead dioxide

Fossil - 13-10-2012 at 08:15

From a couple sources,

100g Iodine, Sigma Aldrich
500ml H2SO4 98% ACS
125g (NH4)2Cr2O7
60g KMnO4
25g FeCl3
625g NH4NO3
125g NaNO3
125ml MEK
25g fine Fe powder
125ml Acetic Anhydride
125ml 85% Phosphoric acid
125g Salicylic acid
125ml Ethylene Glycol
25g Lead acetate
25g SiO2
25g Gelatin
25g Citric acid
25g Ascorbic acid
125g CaCl2
25g Hexamine
10g Methylene Blue
25g Phenolphthalein powder
25g Sodium Thiosulfate
25g KClO4
25g KClO3
25g Sb powder
25g Hg
125g S powder
125g Sodium Benzoate
125ml Hexane
25g Potassium ferrocyanide
625g KOH
625g KBr
125g Oxalic acid
50g Mg
200g CaC2
300g Mg Ingot
500ml 28% NH3 solution
500g BaCO3
500g SrCO3
100g CoCO3
100g NiCO3
1KG NaCO3
500ml Glacial Acetic acid
500ml Tert-Butyl
2.5L Nitric acid 68%
500g Na2Cr2O7
500ml DCM
1L Toluene
3KG NaOH

I think that's it :D

[Edited on 2012-10-13 by Fossil]

Hexavalent - 13-10-2012 at 09:25

Nice!

Beats my order of a bottle of toluene:)

borrowedlawyer - 16-10-2012 at 03:44

Mine is from mixed sources, here goes:

500 mL HNO3
500 mL H2SO4
500 mL HCl
100 g Phenol (What experiments/synthesis should I do with it?)
4 oz Potassium Iodide
100 g Sodium Iodate
20 g Rhodamine B
5 g Ninhydrin
1 oz Sodium Metal
1 kg Al Powder
500 g Ammonium Chloride
500 g Iron Powder
500 g KNO3
500 g Zinc Powder
500 g KCl
1 lb Calcium Carbide
100 g Selenium Powder
Plus some rare earth compounds...

Quite large compared to my normal orders.

Fossil, did you get your iodine from that guy on eBay? Also how much did that come to?

[Edited on 16-10-2012 by borrowedlawyer]

UnintentionalChaos - 16-10-2012 at 05:56

From a few sources....

Gallium source (not really all that recent)
3lb Sodium metal
2lb Mg turnings

Duda Diesel:
1kg NaOH prills
2kg KOH flake

Home Depot:
1gal acetone (I shudder to think how many of these I have used over the last few years)

Walmart:
1L kerosene
1 gallon "crude" ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

Fossil - 16-10-2012 at 11:08

Quote: Originally posted by borrowedlawyer  
...
Fossil, did you get your iodine from that guy on eBay? Also how much did that come to?

[Edited on 16-10-2012 by borrowedlawyer]


Yes I did and it cost me 40$ including shipping to Canada. It was really quite fast and well packaged. I also didn't get any trouble from customs which is always nice.

mr.crow - 16-10-2012 at 11:13

I see you found the 3kg NaOH bucket. There used to be an ebay seller in Quebec that had 250g batches of Iodine from a huge drum for sale.

borrowedlawyer - 17-10-2012 at 01:36

Quote: Originally posted by Fossil  
Quote: Originally posted by borrowedlawyer  
...
Fossil, did you get your iodine from that guy on eBay? Also how much did that come to?

[Edited on 16-10-2012 by borrowedlawyer]


Yes I did and it cost me 40$ including shipping to Canada. It was really quite fast and well packaged. I also didn't get any trouble from customs which is always nice.


I contacted the seller and there is some more left, but I am not sure about it because of Aus customs. Is the customs in Canada that strict, such as if they found it, it would be confiscated and destroyed, no questions asked, no asking for it back like it would be in Australia?

Fossil - 17-10-2012 at 12:33

I am pretty sure that if they had found it, it would not have been a big deal and would have still made it to my house. You should look into the customs regulations for Australia though.

tetrahedron - 17-10-2012 at 13:48

it has more to do with the shipping of dangerous goods than with their importation..customs/postal service work together at the hub where international mail enters, and they try to help each other out, to the disadvantage of the addressee

[Edited on 17-10-2012 by tetrahedron]

borrowedlawyer - 17-10-2012 at 13:54

This is from customs website:
'other chemicals and compounds that are an immediate precursor to a controlled chemical or compound.'
It is my understanding that iodine is not an IMMEDIATE precursor, it is a precursor to another precursor. So in theory I can import it, can anyone please shed some light on this matter?

Pyro - 17-10-2012 at 14:17

i prefer to let pics do the talking.
i got a bunch of second hand beakers and stuff, a new long condenser etc from labstuff and one from laboy.
kitty was inspecting everything, drug sniffing cat :)!

pic order.jpg - 157kBpic order 2.jpg - 202kB

sbbspartan - 18-10-2012 at 07:19

I just got...
1 lb magnesium turnings
500 ml of tertiary butyl alcohol
8 lb of potassium hydroxide
45 grams iodine

The tertiary butyl alcohol came from a guy on eBay, and was only $15 + $8 shipping. I got the potassium hydroxide from essentialdepot.com. It comes packaged in 4 2lb HDPE containers and was only $13 + $15 shipping, so $28 overall for 8 pounds. By the way, if you ever buy from this website, you can use the promotion code "EDPC10" to get 10% off everything. I got the magnesium a while ago for $15. Time to make some potassium. :)

woelen - 18-10-2012 at 12:10

My last chemicals are the following:

Pr6O11 (brown powder, dissolves easily in mineral acids)
Er2O3 (pink powder, dissolves in mineral acids, but very slowly, takes many days)
Na2S.xH2O (technical grade)

The Na2S.xH2O is rather impure, it is brown instead of colorless. It is, however, a very nice source for making pure H2S-gas in a convenient way.

Mailinmypocket - 19-10-2012 at 09:52

Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
My last chemicals are the following:

Pr6O11 (brown powder, dissolves easily in mineral acids)
Er2O3 (pink powder, dissolves in mineral acids, but very slowly, takes many days)
Na2S.xH2O (technical grade)

The Na2S.xH2O is rather impure, it is brown instead of colorless. It is, however, a very nice source for making pure H2S-gas in a convenient way.


I think we ordered the Pr6O11 from the same person if you got it on eBay, nice stuff and pretty cheap :) I even got a small unexpected "gift" from them- a small ampoule with 500 mg samarium!

kristofvagyok - 20-10-2012 at 12:04

Not a special thing but this week we got some solvents what looked like this:


Nearly 150 liter of acetone, a lot methanol, ethanol, hexane, dichloromethane ect. I just love Sigma Aldrich:D

Swede - 21-10-2012 at 13:32

25 grams of RuCl3 - 3H2O

Platinum group metals are expensive, but Ru is one of the lesser in terms of $$. I'd really love to get ahold of some palladium, platinum, and Iridium chlorides, but the $$ is challenging.

All are destined for electrochemistry experiments.

I also need to source some simple reagents like T-butanol, oxalic acid, and a couple of others to prepare some "paint & bake" electrochemical coatings.

Mailinmypocket - 22-10-2012 at 12:30

Quote: Originally posted by Swede  
25 grams of RuCl3 - 3H2O

Platinum group metals are expensive, but Ru is one of the lesser in terms of $$. I'd really love to get ahold of some palladium, platinum, and Iridium chlorides, but the $$ is challenging.

All are destined for electrochemistry experiments.

I also need to source some simple reagents like T-butanol, oxalic acid, and a couple of others to prepare some "paint & bake" electrochemical coatings.


Lots of oxalic acid on eBay and I recently got some t-BuOH from a Canadian supplier 500ml @24$+ shipping for reagent grade. I believe they ship to the USA. PM for supplier!

Fossil - 22-10-2012 at 12:52

^^^You sure it wasn't $25? ;)

Mailinmypocket - 22-10-2012 at 13:06

Maybe? I didn't check their site, just going from memory, was newhorizons!

Edit: just checked; 24.99$ if we must be exact

[Edited on 22-10-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

Fossil - 22-10-2012 at 13:08

Yeah, I got some from them as well not too long ago, hopefully it comes in soon!

Mailinmypocket - 22-10-2012 at 13:11

Just a heads up, it comes in a steel bottle with an inner cap(that you discard once removed) that is sort of like an inverted beer cap. It was a real bitch to get that out of the neck- had to use very small pliers to get a grip on it :S

[Edited on 22-10-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

hyfalcon - 25-10-2012 at 16:21

Quote: Originally posted by Swede  
25 grams of RuCl3 - 3H2O

Platinum group metals are expensive, but Ru is one of the lesser in terms of $$. I'd really love to get ahold of some palladium, platinum, and Iridium chlorides, but the $$ is challenging.

All are destined for electrochemistry experiments.

I also need to source some simple reagents like T-butanol, oxalic acid, and a couple of others to prepare some "paint & bake" electrochemical coatings.


Take a look in Metal Salts at this site.

http://www.artcraftchemicals.com/products/products-page/meta...

For your oxalic acid, I bought mine here:

http://www.soapgoods.com/Oxalic-Acid-p-889.html

[Edited on 26-10-2012 by hyfalcon]

microtron - 25-10-2012 at 18:44

I2 I think and more sulphuric acid perhaps? But I didn't ordered them as they are so basic chemicals here.
When I order something, then it means, it's very hard to make, very complex chemical or very dangerous or very expensive if made by myself or not avalaible on local stores. I mostly use Merck or Sigma-Aldrich for this.

hyfalcon - 26-10-2012 at 13:28

100lbs. KNO3
10lbs. MnO2-200 mesh
10lbs. Rutile-granular
10lbs. Illmenite-granular
10lbs. Illmenite-200mesh
10lbs. Porcelainite
10lbs. Fluorspar

After my next order that I'm getting ready to put in which will consist of some more 5 micron aluminum and some copper oxide, I'll be ready for some thermite experiments.

Pyro - 26-10-2012 at 13:42

wtf! 100lb KNO3?? what for?

borrowedlawyer - 26-10-2012 at 14:06

Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
wtf! 100lb KNO3?? what for?


I think he lives in Australia, if he does he bought it at a farm supply store.

sbbspartan - 26-10-2012 at 17:36

Quote: Originally posted by Pyro  
wtf! 100lb KNO3?? what for?


That could make a heck of a lot of black powder! :D

hyfalcon - 26-10-2012 at 18:36

I live in the US and I did get it from the farm store. Greenhouse grade. Half if for my pyro friend in Louisiana. The other half is for my own BP.

Mailinmypocket - 26-10-2012 at 19:05

Quote: Originally posted by hyfalcon  
I live in the US and I did get it from the farm store. Greenhouse grade. Half if for my pyro friend in Louisiana. The other half is for my own BP.


Oddly here in Canada you can get almost anything but since 9/11 you can't get things like KNO3 from suppliers... My supplier had a warning that comes up for a few of their chemicals stating that it is only available to schools and businesses. Thank god I have a couple kilos stock piled from years ago!

Here is the message:

RESTRICTED COMPONENTS REGULATIONS OF THE EXPLOSIVES ACT
XXXX Scientific is registered with the Explosives Regulatory Division of Natural Resources Canada (NRCan).
This chemical is available only to canadian schools and industries.
It is no longer available to private individuals.
Thank you for your understanding.
Reagent ACS Solution (~15.8M)

Fossil - 26-10-2012 at 19:40

Just got 10g of platinized asbestos in the mail today from a guy in Germany :D

mr.crow - 26-10-2012 at 19:43

Yeah that sucks. It happened fairly recently (around 2009) after some idiot muslim extremists tried blowing up the Toronto stock exchange.

Also, It really bugs my why potassium permanganate is restricted here. The best I could find is they don't want 55kg sacks being exported to Colombia to purify cocaine

Fossil - 27-10-2012 at 06:02

Go to the country (I was in northern Ontario) and look for a store that sells water purification products, they usually sell potassium permanganate to remove iron impurities from well water. The store that I went to sold 2.5kg tubs of the stuff for around 50$. I didn't buy any so I can't say anything on the purity, but it looked quite pure.

Mailinmypocket - 27-10-2012 at 08:21

Quote: Originally posted by Fossil  
Go to the country (I was in northern Ontario) and look for a store that sells water purification products, they usually sell potassium permanganate to remove iron impurities from well water. The store that I went to sold 2.5kg tubs of the stuff for around 50$. I didn't buy any so I can't say anything on the purity, but it looked quite pure.


A local plumbing store sold me this for about 50$, I found it by googling "my city+potassium permanganate"



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My latest restock

zenosx - 4-11-2012 at 19:43

This is from several different companies including local suppliers.

Some I just grabbed for the awesome prices they were offering with no immediate synthesis or use in mind (like acetic anhydride, I knew it was useful, but Didn't know it was a sched II precursor until After i received it... ), either way, I have offered family in the local sheriffs office to tour my lab anytime they please, to which they show no interest, unless it's blowing up gummy bears and the like, they love watching shit explode.... good thing I have no interest in explosive chemistry or they'd all be here wanting me to blow up something....Really sad when you think about it ....That is the Southern US for you...

Anyway, last orders came to~ this:

4oz Mercury Metal
2oz Chlorobenzene
4oz Acetic Anhydride
1oz Calcium Metal
4oz Activated Charcoal
1oz Citric Acid
4oz Diatomaceous Earth
4oz Ethylene Glycol
16oz Formaldehyde
1oz Formamide
4oz Hexamethylene Tetramine USP
16oz Hydrochloric Acid 37% ACS
1oz Lugol's Iodine
3x Magnesium Metal Ribbon - 3ft
4oz Manganese Dioxide
15g Mercurous Chloride ACS
4oz Phosphoric Acid
1oz Potassium Thiocyanate
1oz Potassium Sodium Tartrate
1oz Sulfamic Acid
1oz Trichloroacetic Acid
16oz ACS Sulfuric Acid
8oz Hexamine
12oz Dichloromethane (Methylene Chloride)
4oz Dichlorobenzene
16oz Benzoic Acid
8oz Para-Formaldehyde
1oz Magnesium Nitrate
1oz Magnesium Oxide
16oz Glacial Acetic Acid
8oz Salicyclic Acid
8oz Sulfur ACS
8oz Potassium Chlorate
16oz Potassium Hydroxide
16oz Sodium Hydroxide
100g Manganese Permanganate
Cans of
Toluene
Acetone
Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK)
Naphthalene

and several others I cannot remember ATM,

And, Don't forget the
DOT Exempt Poison Pak Shipping! That is NOT cheap :)

Mailinmypocket - 7-11-2012 at 15:26

Quote: Originally posted by zenosx  


And, Don't forget the
DOT Exempt Poison Pak Shipping! That is NOT cheap :)


Damned poison packs...

I got a little something today... Not extremely useful to me, but still cool :) it's a very nice vitamin c (ascorbic acid) indicator



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Oscilllator - 10-11-2012 at 00:36

Just popped down to the hardware store to grab some stuff today.

I purchased:
- 1L acetone
- 1L Toluene
- 1L Hydrochloric acid
- 1L 30% phosphoric acid, which is all milky white and soapy :mad:

weschem - 10-11-2012 at 09:05

1lb aluminum 600mesh
1lb potassium perchlorate 200 mesh
1lb potassium nitrate 200 mesh

Quartz tube!

Mailinmypocket - 13-11-2012 at 12:58

Not a chemical but sort of neat- a huge quartz tube! It was given to me by a friend who works at a chlorate/chlorite plant not far from here. They replaced these which are used to encapsulate sensors in the electrolysis reactors. I'm guessing it could be used as a test tube? :)

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[Edited on 13-11-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

Morgan - 13-11-2012 at 15:51

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Not a chemical but sort of neat- a huge quartz tube! It was given to me by a friend who works at a chlorate/chlorite plant not far from here. They replaced these which are used to encapsulate sensors in the electrolysis reactors. I'm guessing it could be used as a test tube? :)

Quartz is neat stuff to be sure. I bought three boxes of tubing made by Heraeus sealed in plastic with specs on each tube enclosed in the plastic. It was used for making fiber optic cable. I couldn't resist because it was so cheap on ebay at the time.
There are these quartz "test tubes" for sale on eBay now, kind of nice too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fused-Quartz-Test-Tube-1-6-Dameter-L...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4nGPI6DTLw

[Edited on 13-11-2012 by Morgan]

Hexavalent - 17-11-2012 at 11:40

All from eBay, total was £26.36:)

-500g copper sulfate pentahydrate

-500mL 69% nitric acid

-800g benzoic acid

-500ml 25% ammonia

Mailinmypocket - 17-11-2012 at 14:05

Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
All from eBay, total was £26.36:)

-500g copper sulfate pentahydrate

-500mL 69% nitric acid

-800g benzoic acid

-500ml 25% ammonia


Isn't receiving chemicals the best thing ever? :P

Hexavalent - 17-11-2012 at 14:15

'Tis, equal to receiving new glassware:)

mr.crow - 19-11-2012 at 09:34

I can't believe I spent $200 on GL45 caps. The fancy fluropolymer ones.

I'm also sad VWR now requires a company name and contact

Swede - 19-11-2012 at 11:02

Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  
I can't believe I spent $200 on GL45 caps. The fancy fluropolymer ones.

I'm also sad VWR now requires a company name and contact


For storage of fuming acids and the like? There isn't much else (cap-wise) that will stand up to long-term storage.

My precious stash of conc. nitric is in a glass bottle with a fluoropolymer cap.

Got 1 gm of palladium chloride on the way plus some Tin (II) Chloride.

mr.crow - 22-11-2012 at 10:27

Yes, long term storage of nasty things!

Hopefully the sketchy web store actually works and sends my caps. Shipping was a huge ripoff, like usual from the States

I also bought Len1's book on amazon.ca. "Usually ships within 1 to 3 months" WTF?

Swede - 24-11-2012 at 06:47

Back when I was selling MMO anodes and shipping them from the USA worldwide, the shipping costs were extreme... I hope you understand it is the shipping companies that are ripping us all off, not the chemical companies. :)

The options were typically like this...

Private shipping companies - $25 to $50 and a week to 10 days
Postal services premium express mail - same deal
Surface shipments - $12, but 6 to 8 weeks!

So it's a no-win situation. Then, there's customs fees and sometimes customs confiscations, which the buyer sometimes blames on the shipper! Of course, in those cases, it's the country laws themselves which are at fault.

Re: the book, my guess is it is a print to order book.

Mailinmypocket - 25-11-2012 at 15:00

1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.

borrowedlawyer - 26-11-2012 at 01:58

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.


Don't dispose of it like that guy did with hydrazine :(. Try and find a polypropylene or Ryton (PPS) or Teflon container as they are suitable for storage according to a compatibility chart.

If you can't find one, convert it to a salt and ship it to me ;).

[Edited on 26-11-2012 by borrowedlawyer]

Mailinmypocket - 26-11-2012 at 05:36

Quote: Originally posted by borrowedlawyer  
Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.


Don't dispose of it like that guy did with hydrazine :(. Try and find a polypropylene or Ryton (PPS) or Teflon container as they are suitable for storage according to a compatibility chart.

If you can't find one, convert it to a salt and ship it to me ;).

[Edited on 26-11-2012 by borrowedlawyer]


I just took it because the person was throwing it away, it's double contained. When I opened the first container I was greeted by a thick plastic bottle made of some sort of plastic that has a yellow tint to it, also it isn't the chemical suppliers bottle. The plastic seems very fragile, like I could fracture the bottle by squeezing it. Ill leave it as is until I buy a better bottle and a tube of calcium gluconate gel.


smaerd - 30-11-2012 at 13:31

Just ordered some small volumes of,

aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes! :)

Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects.

Mailinmypocket - 30-11-2012 at 14:08

Quote: Originally posted by smaerd  
Just ordered some small volumes of,

aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes! :)

Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects.


Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult. I just bought a small cylinder of argon from BOC gases, still need to find an affordable regulator though.

smaerd - 30-11-2012 at 14:30

Will elemental scientific ship to Canada? It's pretty expensive from them(18$ for ~114g). Then again it sure beats making benzene, making nitric acid, nitrating and reducing. I'm sure some amateurs will disagree with that, but I'm content with saving my benzene for other E.A.S. reactions. Aniline opens a lot of synthetic door-ways really excited! I'm still waiting on getting an inert gas tank(probably go cheap and go for N2), I don't really need one yet, but it sure would be nice for some of the research projects I have in mind.

Mailinmypocket - 30-11-2012 at 14:57

Quote: Originally posted by smaerd  
Will elemental scientific ship to Canada? It's pretty expensive from them(18$ for ~114g). Then again it sure beats making benzene, making nitric acid, nitrating and reducing. I'm sure some amateurs will disagree with that, but I'm content with saving my benzene for other E.A.S. reactions. Aniline opens a lot of synthetic door-ways really excited! I'm still waiting on getting an inert gas tank(probably go cheap and go for N2), I don't really need one yet, but it sure would be nice for some of the research projects I have in mind.


They ship to Canada but the price is ridiculous... I wouldn't mind paying their price for the chemical but if I remember correctly including shipping, a poison pack and something else but I forget what, it was going to be like 60 bucks for the smallest size :( screw that! I have benzene but I'd rather keep it for other projects.

Lambda-Eyde - 30-11-2012 at 15:01

Benzene can be easily made in ridiculous quantities. Anyone can get ahold of sodium benzoate and sodium hydroxide. In the mindset of a home chemist it is a "renewable" resource. I don't see why you'd want to "save" it. Make a liter and convert it to nitrobenzene, bromobenzene, chlorobenzene, alkylbenzenes and acylbenzenes... Then you're set!

Mailinmypocket - 30-11-2012 at 15:13

Quote: Originally posted by Lambda-Eyde  
Benzene can be easily made in ridiculous quantities. Anyone can get ahold of sodium benzoate and sodium hydroxide. In the mindset of a home chemist it is a "renewable" resource. I don't see why you'd want to "save" it. Make a liter and convert it to nitrobenzene, bromobenzene, chlorobenzene, alkylbenzenes and acylbenzenes... Then you're set!


Right now my current living situation makes it difficult to make benzene unfortunately. Living in the city with lots of snoop-a-holics on all three sides of my backyard makes me leery of doing it out there. Indoors is out of the question, some things I will do but distilling benzene? Hmmm nah! I'm "saving" the almost 1l I have because it is mallinckrodt reagent grade and was pretty damned expensive when I bought it. I'm not that pressed to get aniline anyways, although it would be nice :P

Also just got back from the "chemical store" in town and got:

4 litres glacial acetic - 21.99 CAD
4 litres 28% ammonia solution- 12.95 CAD
4 litres denatured EtOH - 18 CAD

The chemical store is like the candy shop for chemists!




[Edited on 1-12-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

[Edited on 1-12-2012 by Mailinmypocket]

IrC - 1-12-2012 at 00:42

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Quote: Originally posted by smaerd  
Just ordered some small volumes of,

aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes! :)

Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects.


Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult. I just bought a small cylinder of argon from BOC gases, still need to find an affordable regulator though.



http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311&...

Link for ebay search, first one only 2 bucks so far if you read this in 12 hours or less. Looks like several are around 50 bucks for what it's worth. Wondering if a Nitrogen regulator could be used. Seems like 3 to 4 thousand PSI maximum is typical for a tank of either gas.

Out of curiosity I searched for mercury metal, seems like you can no longer list it. Just a few years ago I saw it in many listings. Has ebay become a wasteland for much of our hobby? Getting impossible to find many things now which sucks as private parties getting rid of their lab supplies used to be great for bargains.



[Edited on 12-1-2012 by IrC]

UnintentionalChaos - 1-12-2012 at 01:35

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  

Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult.


Try buying acetanilide. In the US at least, this is not considered hazardous for shipping, it is a solid, and it is rapidly hydrolyzed by warming with HCl and then basifying. The dark oil is then steam distilled, salted out, dried with NaOH or KOH, and vacuum distilled to water-clear aniline in good yield.

[Edited on 12-1-12 by UnintentionalChaos]

smaerd - 1-12-2012 at 04:52

Pretty sure aniline hydrochloride also gets around the hazardous shipping.

Mailinmypocket - 1-12-2012 at 07:37

Quote: Originally posted by UnintentionalChaos  
Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  

Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult.


Try buying acetanilide. In the US at least, this is not considered hazardous for shipping, it is a solid, and it is rapidly hydrolyzed by warming with HCl and then basifying. The dark oil is then steam distilled, salted out, dried with NaOH or KOH, and vacuum distilled to water-clear aniline in good yield.

[Edited on 12-1-12 by UnintentionalChaos]


That sounds like a relatively easy method and an interesting process. I can get acetanilide on eBay - Thanks! Ill give it a try :)

IrC: I placed a bid on the first one, my cylinder is at 11,500kPa so that regulator can easily handle it. I was just a bit uncertain of buying those on eBay due to safety concerns but it looks fine. Still 12 hours on the bid though so we will see where it gets to.

IrC - 1-12-2012 at 13:20

Appears you have been outbid by half a buck with 6 hours to go. Looks like NOS just stored somewhere the box got a little roughed up. If you get it for under $40 you are still saving money.

mr.crow - 1-12-2012 at 20:17

Has anyone seen the eBay listing of 5 chemical bottles for $100? It was a pain in the butt to decode all the CAS numbers and all the good stuff appears to be gone. I did get a few good things out of it :)

Also, has anyone heard of http://www.erlenmeyers.com/? I ordered some super fancy GL45 bottle caps, but they haven't even processed the order yet >: ( thank gawd for paypal

mr.crow - 3-12-2012 at 19:37

Yay my expensive-ass caps shipped!



To bad I won't be able to do any experiments for a long time :( moving

UnintentionalChaos - 3-12-2012 at 19:42

Quote: Originally posted by mr.crow  
Yay my expensive ass-caps shipped!



mr.crow - 3-12-2012 at 20:47

Haha Yes

TheChemINC - 4-12-2012 at 17:40

2lb KOH
500ml Tert-Butanol
1lb Ammonium Perchlorate
1lb German Dark Al
1lb Magnalium
1lb KCLO4

and a bunch of other glassware :)

sbbspartan - 4-12-2012 at 18:17

Not really chemicals, but I just got some items from elemental scientific...

2 150ml Pyrex beakers
2 250ml Pyrex beakers
1 400ml Pyrex beaker
1 600ml Pyrex beaker
1 1000ml Pyrex beaker
2 250ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flasks
1 500ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flask
1 1000ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flask
1 Thermometer, -30 to 50 C
2 Thermometer, -10 to 250 C
1 Thermometer, -10 to 400 C
1 Filter Paper, Qualitative, Fast Flow, 70mm

The thermometers are all nice mercury ones, and the glass is all Pyrex, and all for less than $90 too. :) I love elemental...

Mailinmypocket - 4-12-2012 at 21:32

5g Pt on carbon, 5%

SM2 - 5-12-2012 at 08:24

Quote: Originally posted by Kaifas  
Sodium salts dissolves much better than potassium salts so it is reason to use both potassium and sodium. I use oxidizers to do some Copper perclorate (binds strongly to nitrogen bases) and copper(III) compounds and making different copper complexes . Copper(I)cyanade goes to Gillman reagents. Copper(II)chloride is starting material to do Glacer couplings. Copper powder goes to Ullman coupling reactions.

Sodium nitrate is exellent for mild nitration systems because of good solubility.

It is difficult to byu chemicals here too.


Except for the hydroxide in ethanol;


SM2 - 5-12-2012 at 08:34

Occasionally you'll see one chemical for sale on ebay, and the rest of the stuff junk. In this category I've: Nitroethane, propiophenone, and I believe 3-4-5 trimethoxy benzaldehyde>. That is a set up, and order any one of these, just realize you'll be scrutinized for at least 2 years, if not more.


all dea needs to do these days is place a CAM (short for a dedicated GC). If the cam smells the right smell, you will be scrutinized even further.

It's kind of queer (NOT that there is anything wrong with it) how different chemicals/API's are restricted or not depending on local. From what I understand, buying anti-histamines is very difficult in Au, as are Amino Acids. Go figure?!

In Germany, Melatonin is very watched, and can only be supplied by a physician for a 20 day supply, no refills.

Tramadol is culprit numero uno basically in the whole middle east. Strange.





[Edited on 5-12-2012 by Fennel Ass Ih Tone]

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