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People inadvertently making explosive disinfectants
Read the question on the second link.
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Should also add some lemon for the smell.
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WTF? How isn't that website taken down already?? And FREAKING ACETONE PEROXIDE drying on the skin? Wow...
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Without a strong acid catalysts nothing happens.
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Are you crazy! Hydrochloric acid catalyst produces a much more stable hand sanitizer.
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Well TATP will certainly protect them from the virus, and any and all other life problems! Life can't bother you when your not in it!
Like the people who think drinking bleach is a good thing, they are right, they just have the dosage wrong is all!
Frankly we been due for a gene pool chlorination, any one who cares to pay attention will have seen this coming, I sure did, 3 months of food reserves
where all ways on hand (Old habit from growing up in far and remote area) but seeing how the world was acting was a mater of when, not if, same with
another major depression, when, not if.
So be like the boy scouts peoples! Be Prepared! 3 Months of food is not hard to do now days and when you need it you will be thankful you have it! Job
lose? economic collapse? pandemic? You got food, don't panic, pay attention and start planning for when that runs out.
By the time it runs out you aut to have gardens growing and a means to hunt in place if need be, do not hoard toilet paper lol!
and stick with good ol soap n water and do not touch the face till hands been washed! a balanced meal and plenty of sleep is all you need for your
immune system to work well, don't waste money and farce treatments offered at a massive price! Stress and lack of sleep worst thing to your health.
[Edited on 15-3-2020 by XeonTheMGPony]
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I think it still happens in the absence of catalyst just not very quickly.
Years from now I guess someone someplace could have a forgotten dried up old bottle that would be best not disturbed.
This virus thing sucks but on the bright side the world is going to discover we can all get by with a lot more vacation and leisure time.
The industrial and agricultural revolutions are old news, the 40 hour work week has been obsolete for decades.
Everything is going to be fine.
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I tried to make TATP with citric acid; doesn't work.
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Its good that they didn't mention additional HCl in this mix haha. This would be total killer
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This virus thing sucks but on the bright side the world is going to discover we can all get by with a lot more vacation and leisure time.
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Really? Because I must going in to my job if I don't want get fired and starve to death.
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Pyro_cat
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky | | Quote: Originally posted by Pyro_cat |
This virus thing sucks but on the bright side the world is going to discover we can all get by with a lot more vacation and leisure time.
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Really? Because I must going in to my job if I don't want get fired and starve to death. |
Maybe they will stop this this dumbshit
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky | | Quote: Originally posted by Pyro_cat |
This virus thing sucks but on the bright side the world is going to discover we can all get by with a lot more vacation and leisure time.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=coronavirus+eviction
Also search coronavirus + utility bills
Evictions and utility cutoffs are being suspended till this crisis is over.
Very interesting, and scary time we are living in but I think things will be ok.
Me I keep my distance from people, hands off face, push doors open with my foot.
I think if any of us are going to be ok its us science nerds.
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Couple of problems with that...
The corn being used for ethanol generally isn't food-grade - it's a lower quality sort bred and processed for industrial applications.
There is a surplus of food in the United States (and most developed countries); people go hungry not due to a global food shortage, but due to
logistics (getting the food to the people). Just like there's empty shelves in many grocery stores right now, despite there not being national or
global shortages of food (or toilet paper).
Despite the use of corn for ethanol, there is still so much surplus corn in the corn-producing areas of North America that corn is burned directly for heat, being cheaper than other fuel sources.
Never trust infographics posted on this site.
[Edited on 22-3-2020 by zwt2]
"Since you belong to the small number of wise men... tell me, how do you occupy yourselves?"
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I once tried to eat that type of corn... I thought corn was disgusting for the next 15 years. It is grown in the Netherlands as food for cows. They
don't even bother to separate the corn, they just throw everything in a grinder a feed it like that.
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On Wednesday, the U.S. Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau announced that beverage distillers, through June 30, could make ethanol-based hand
sanitizer. The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention has said effective hand sanitizer must contain at least 60% alcohol.
Nationally, about three-fourths of craft distillers surveyed by the American Distilling Institute, a trade group, said they were interested in making
sanitizer to help health care workers, police and the general public, the New York Times reported.
https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/liquor-makers-in...
I still think some of that that ethanol going into the gasoline should be diverted immediately .
There is no shortage of ethanol and the gasoline will be fine with less of it.
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I just read that over 14 billion gallons of ethanol are blended into the gasoline every year.
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Exactly my thought, how can there be an ethanol shortage if we're blending it in fuel? Like, maybe it is denatured but I don't think any of the common
denaturants (acetone, methanol, isopropanol, MEK, MIBK) are any problem at all. Although some denaturants might be a problem: denatonium benzoate,
pyridine.
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Bio science isnt really my thing. So maybe bathing in hand sanitizer is not the solution cause we could easily produce alot of it and its not
happening.
Bio science is the most fascinating of all but I always shied away from it cause it kind of gave me a touch of hypochondria. Just washing hands makes
sense and thats what I am doing.
I am going to head over to the biochemistry section of the forum, lets see what they are discussing.
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Except they are using very dilute forms of the chemicals used to make TATP and they are not going through the same procedures used to make TATP, so I
don’t think much TATP will be produced and even if some was produced, it would be a very small amount in liquid suspension. Even if it dried on a
surface on someone’s hands, the change of a injury causing detonation would likely be extremely unlikely.
That said, if someone were to go rogue and make their own version, it’s possible they would inadvertently produce a dangerous amount of TATP, like
this person: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/16/bristol-universi...
But to be fair, a massive TATP explosion would probably kill Coronavirus!
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On that U.S. corn-fuel topic, it isn't sustainable. The Ogallala Aquifer underlies 8 U.S. states which supplies much of the corn production, those
farmers will have to switch to wheat from corn and soy, biomass yields will go down, and gasoline/petrol will become more expensive than diesel again
(less lower cost ethanol to mix in to gasoline/petrol).
It is a problem documented in documented in youtube documentaries and articles such as this. I suppose it is a world wide problem, people drawing water from aquifers faster than they're replenished.
[Edited on 16-4-2020 by andy1988]
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