Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Tumadre's Nitro-questions
tumadre
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 171
Registered: 10-5-2005
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 00:24
Tumadre's Nitro-questions


I am confused.
nitro methane is or is not the same as Tetranitromethane?

also if I were to use h2so4 and Kno3 without distilling, would the Kso4 affect the product?

certain paint solvents use a mix of toulene, methanol, benzene.
would nitrating all three together be a bad idea? assuming nothing else is in there?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
chemoleo
Biochemicus Energeticus
*****




Posts: 3005
Registered: 23-7-2003
Location: England Germany
Member Is Offline

Mood: crystalline

[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 05:19


I've moved this to the Beginnings section as it otherwise spoils the perfectly decent methylnitrate thread with trivia. Please, tumadre, in the future read up before asking the perfectly obvious....

May someone else is kind enough to explain ...




Never Stop to Begin, and Never Begin to Stop...
Tolerance is good. But not with the intolerant! (Wilhelm Busch)
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Darkblade48
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 411
Registered: 27-3-2005
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 06:22


Quote:
Originally posted by tumadre
I am confused.
nitro methane is or is not the same as Tetranitromethane?

It is not the same; nitromethane is CH3NO2, whereas tetranitromethane is C(NO2)4.

Quote:
Originally posted by tumadre
also if I were to use h2so4 and Kno3 without distilling, would the Kso4 affect the product?

The K2SO4 would not affect the product, however, without distillation, you will not be able to obtain the nitric acid.

Quote:
Originally posted by tumadre
certain paint solvents use a mix of toulene, methanol, benzene.
would nitrating all three together be a bad idea? assuming nothing else is in there?

Yes, nitrating all three together would yield a wide variety of nitrated compounds, each of which would be difficult to separate.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
neutrino
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1583
Registered: 20-8-2004
Location: USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: oscillating

[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 08:56


KHSO<sub>4</sub> will be formed, not K<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub>. That second proton won't come off in an environment this acidic.



View user's profile View All Posts By User
Darkblade48
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 411
Registered: 27-3-2005
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 09:03


Ah, thanks for correcting me neutrino, I wasn't thinking properly (didn't have my morning coffee intake, you know ;))
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top