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[*] posted on 27-6-2008 at 21:27


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Every hour there would be hundreds of new posts whereas here at SM things are a lot slower and dull mainly because this forum doesn't allow discussion of drug chemistry, and the Hive was dedicated to the chemistry of mind-altering substances.


I am not trying to be pedantic, but as a newbie to this forum, I have noted how actual discussions relating to drug chemistry are allowed here at SM. Recipe swopping for the benifit of increased yields and using acronyms to name compounds, and of course the use of various water sporting titles are not. This is something I am pleased about here at SM.
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[*] posted on 29-6-2008 at 20:34


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Like internet forum jargon? How ironic.

[Edited on 6-29-2008 by MagicJigPipe]




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[*] posted on 30-6-2008 at 04:44


Please! All involved, this thread is already 12 pages long! Lots of stuff about the ex-Hive was already said that might or might not be interesting to its ex-members, but I find it extremely annoying when this thread is being used for completely pointless personal "discussions" that have no other function but post whoring and general time wasting.
So, do not post unless you have anything important to add on the topic that is of general interest!
You are free of not to do so, but in such case I will also use my freedom and remove what I consider is against the above guideline.
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[*] posted on 3-10-2008 at 20:41
Old Times


As an early member I have many fond memories of the comraderie of a small group of co-researchers. There was a catalytic activity , a synergy, which spurred us all to reach for the stars.

I Having virtually no organic chem background, and only a CRC reference, a gift from a University librarian, the group fed a growing appetite for knowledge.

When Spiceboy came up with the idea of shaking a 2 liter coke bottle til our arms fell off, I knew I was in the midst of a transformative event, kind of like San Francisco's "Summer of Love". (which I enjoyed from a great distance). There was something 'honest' about having arms which throbbed with pain.

The night I posted my first honey success, and earned my wings was the first time I had ever really belonged to anything, and though I was hardly a chemist, I felt accepted.

Bright Star was the one person I ever felt a deep personal bond with and only he will know why.

Towards the end of my tenure, (late 2000), the influx of the immoral, money hungry, mass producers changed the whole tone of the place. There was no longer the atmosphere of love and peace which marked the earlier years. Greed, defilement and disgusting self-centeredness drove me off and I suspect the others who had true psychonautic leanings.
Originally "E" was considered an "EnTheogen", ie a material to awaken an awarness of divine principles.
When I turned the page on that chapter of my life (clean and straight 7 years now), it had become more about violating innocence than being such.

I watched the same thing happen in the period from 1967 to 1972. Once loving and sensitive people who only wanted to share beauty became ruthless and greedy pushers. Guns began to appear and ripoffs, burns and other deadly games took over. This corresponded to the appearance of MDA, and "H" on the scene. We seem to lack the ability to handle the stresses of altered states without degeneration. At least it was true for me.

In the end I turned to a faith in God, which was central to my quest in the beginning, smashed thousands of dollars of glassware, burned precursors, and cleaned up my life. I bear no judgements of any who honestly enjoy psychedelics, but to the ones who seek to destroy and defile I say to hell with you!

It was interesting to find this forum. Also to read of former hive members (I googled that line).

May it be well with you.

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[*] posted on 3-10-2008 at 21:30


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.. smashed thousands of dollars of glassware...


why on gods earth would you smash it?
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 09:29


glassware murderer!
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 09:51


Simple Kc

I saw myself becoming what I so despised in many others. I could not reconcile these forces.

Many attempts to hold on to my own values while continuing to 'research' failed and whatever was dragging me down was winning. I acted in a desparate move to save my soul if you will. The perceived 'vaule' of the objects no longer meant anything to me. I needed to escape the gravitational pull of the black hole I had become entangled in.
It really doesn't matter to me if you understand this, I know what I was going through and I knew what I had to do. btw no one knew of my struggle, no one influenced me. I sought the way out I needed and it has proven to be the right one "FOR ME"!.

Please be clear.
I acted for my own sanity and freedom.

I now have what I wanted all along. An intimate relationship with "God", which satisfies all my desires.
Do I miss the 'adventures' of the past? Of course I do, in the same way one might fondly remember an ocean voyage which ended with the ship sinking and clinging to a life preserver for days before being picked up by a fishing boat and brought to shore. Solid ground was never before so precious.

I only posted here because the time this thread refers to was special and inportant in my life. There WAS a fabric of empathy which bound many of us together. Randolph Carter and I shared some amazing sories, even though we were worlds apart in our 'real' lives. There was something 'spiritual' in our common search. That's what caused me to realize that what "I" was really looking for could not be made in a lab, or swalled in a capsule.

I wanted an experience that was not toxic, available every single hour of every single day, and had no come-down. I wanted what Timothy Leary encouraged his crowd of followers to do. To go beyond drugs. (Which he himself never managed to do).
I have done it and while it was anything but easy, seeing as how drugs played a central role in my life for over 45 years, I am for the very first time in my life completely content in my own skin.

This is why the glassware meant nothing, other then a 'siren song' to take up cooking again and forsake the quest for peace I had embarked on.

Now in my sixties, I have a sense of having made the greatest scientific discovery of all. I have discovered the thing I was searching for was always right here.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just laying down my trip. It's been a gas.

The Hive played an integral part in my journey.

If I had not been able to obtain an unlimited supply of "E" of known purity, I would never have been able to plumb it's depth's and determine it's limits. There would have remained in my mind a sense that if "I just had done a bit more:. I would have broken through.

There is no "other side" which can be reached through drugs, IMHO. Only more and more illusions. I am satisfied my 'research' was thorough enough to allow me to settle the question and fully embrace what I always knw was true but chose to set aside because of culture and predjudice.

I now live in what the Bible calls "The Mind of Christ". It is the state of being which all psychedelics attempt to emulate. The empathy I craved is a permanant experience. There is no place for defilement, no need to destroy.
It is a connection to reality I had only dreamed of, or glimpsed in fleeting moments while tripping.

In your mind I am probably insane. I suspect more than a few who have stumbled upon this Way have been labled as such.
On drugs, I fantasized powers and forces. Today I weild incredible power, but under the benevolent direction of the Source of all power.

Bob Dylan wrote "Your'e gonna have to serve somebody, It may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but your'e gonna have to serve somebody".

The answer to your apt question "why on gods earth would you smash it? " is simple it's because it IS God's earth, and I BELONG TO HIM!

Be well, know peace

In Love and Truth

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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 09:53


Okay, 12 pages of almost unvaried nostalgia for the lost Eden rolled into Camelot and Utopia that was The Hive by all accounts. Quoth the raven, Nevermore!

I have not seen the original interrogative of the thread addressed. Can someone state clearly and succinctly what happened to Paradise Lost? Was there a serpent and a fruit of the knowledge of good and evil tree? Did an angel with a flaming sword drive the Bees out of the apiary?

Inquiring minds want to know!

(sorry if the irreverence ranckles. I am often irreverent and in this instance I see nothing to be reverent about. It was a forum not a shrine. It's long gone. Get over it.)


[Edited on 5-10-2008 by Sauron]




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 10:40


Sauron

I think the answer is in the facts I related about the original 'spirit' being corrupted by greed and lust for power and by the intent of your sig.

"an overgrowth of 'varosa mites' due to the shortage of Formic acid resulting from excessive diversion".

A failure to wipe out the immoral rot which accompanies a sense of personal omnipotence.

too many 'good' men did nothing. Those who's hearts had a higher purpose in the beginning just left.
I tried to 'seed' a spritual revolution and the 'dark side' censored my posts and shut me out.

there is such a thing as Prime Evil.

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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 10:57


Sadly, twas ever thus. Sic transit gloria mundi.



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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 11:12


"The memory of my ashes
Will consolation be;
Then farewell Tuscarora,
And farewell, Sir, to thee!"

Amen

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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 11:27


Sounds like The Hive ran smack into human nature.

A well known Bangkok columnist, now retired, used to call it huMAN natURE (MANURE).




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 11:49


the fruit, the lie, the shame, the sword

all prelude to the coming Word

Awaken passions only heard by ears of desperation

For beginning sure implies an end and if it is then time well spent

To taste the pure sweet milk of friendship of life laid down for brother

Quixotic paths have long been trod by creatures searching for their God

and failing quest have fallen back to sodden sullen muck

and in the mire have found their use, as fodder for the grasses

For destiny rests not in man, nor in the plunder with his hand

of sacred fire preserved for when He who lit it does release it.

Shall mud be fashioned into form by inklings of a rising dawn?

or pottery once smashed forlorn be still again assembled?

Nay, only the wheel in Potter's hand can spin again the shape of man

and from the muck reveal His plan

a chastened worthy vessel

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[*] posted on 5-10-2008 at 23:15


I'm also a former hive member, there I was known as icecool and absolutely unexperienced there I started to learn about synthesizing phenethylamines.
I don't know if Indole_Amine is around here but at least he is the guy that taught me everything I needed to know until I made my first PEA. And when I smelled the great smell of the freebase.
He is a person I would really like to thank, haven't seen him by e-mail for long time...
Probably no one will remember me from the hive but maybe they do from synthetikal.
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[*] posted on 30-5-2009 at 04:43


I just got out of federal prison.. an am looking for old Hive Bees, Just to say hay.. You Remember the UH? Underground Hive. I'm the founder.. Jacked.. I tried to log on with my old user name but it said it was taken. I cant imagine anyone running around with my history... Any how, Hell yea I remember the hive!
I know,, Insignificant not contributory... Well, lets see, This place seems like its got its shit together. I'm way out of date and only practice the craft in my dreams.. The Hive is where some of us got started in the trade craft. We look back in fondness remembering old times and BIG BALLS Moves. I personally made a lot of friends that I still communicate with. Some I've lost touch with and only hope they have had a better run that I had and are doing good.. I might not have much to share in the chemistry forums but I do have legal experience that most do not.. I still have something to contribute that is not insignificant if you find yourself caught up deep in the game..
I'm sure this is not the right forum to talk about this.. I've got a lot of reading to do :) The Hive lives inside its members. No one can take that from us. Not even the government.

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Mr. Huson is out.

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[*] posted on 19-7-2009 at 04:28


Some archived hive pages.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010719132601/http://www.the-hiv...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724173701/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010902094749/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724172718/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20040426021503/http://www.the-hiv...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010822142811/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010822142720/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724175028/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724180415/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724180556/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724172159/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724174208/http://www.the-hiv...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724180027/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010724174023/http://www.the-hiv...

http://web.archive.org/web/20010822144046/www.the-hive.ws/fo...

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[*] posted on 19-7-2009 at 18:28


Quote: Originally posted by Nicodem  
Please! All involved, this thread is already 12 pages long! Lots of stuff about the ex-Hive was already said that might or might not be interesting to its ex-members, but I find it extremely annoying when this thread is being used for completely pointless personal "discussions" that have no other function but post whoring and general time wasting.
So, do not post unless you have anything important to add on the topic that is of general interest!
You are free of not to do so, but in such case I will also use my freedom and remove what I consider is against the above guideline.


I concur! The Hive is offline and WILL remain such.




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[*] posted on 23-11-2013 at 09:42


Now that we're in 2013, can anyone recommend the best substitutes for the-hive.ws?



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Quote: Originally posted by jock88  

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.....bad choice, since the moderators were removed, including myself and other well respected bee elders, it's become an newbee haven and a place were they've plagiarised hive posts in order to get more members and donations.....a sad day for others work and effort.......solo/java

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[*] posted on 23-9-2015 at 04:55


The original Hive is finally now available in read only format:

https://the-hive.archive.erowid.org/

as was stated by Lili went it went offline in 2004 :D More information concerning this can be found at:

https://archive.erowid.org/

Lilienthal has posted this in:

https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=63...

The end results from the effort applied :cool:





[Edited on 23-9-2015 by leu]




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