Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Roach killer silicon dioxide for diy TLC plates?
Chemguy5
Harmless
*




Posts: 27
Registered: 11-7-2018
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 20-11-2018 at 14:49
Roach killer silicon dioxide for diy TLC plates?


Will silicon dioxide used for roach killing work as non mobile in DIY TLC plates?
The process I read says to use silicon dioxide desiccant beads found in pill bottles or shoe boxes and grind them up with a mortar and pestle.
I have a bottle of silicon dioxide roach killer that is already extremely fine powdered and extremely light weight which feels strange as the bottle is quite large yet can't weight for than around 50 grams including the bottle.
I'm wondering if I can use this instead of crushing the bead form but I wasn't sure if it is made different then the beads.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
VSEPR_VOID
National Hazard
****




Posts: 719
Registered: 1-9-2017
Member Is Offline

Mood: Fullerenes

[*] posted on 20-11-2018 at 17:53


Have you tried purifying it? I imagine there are a bunch of things mixed with it.

How will you attach the silica to a glass slide for TLC plates?




Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
View user's profile View All Posts By User
battoussai114
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 235
Registered: 18-2-2015
Member Is Offline

Mood: Not bad.... Not bad.

[*] posted on 20-11-2018 at 17:53


I don't see why not. These are usually made from ground Diatomaceous Earth, which can be used as stationary phase for TLC. Just ensure yours doesn't contain additives to bait insects into eating it.



Batoussai.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
VSEPR_VOID
National Hazard
****




Posts: 719
Registered: 1-9-2017
Member Is Offline

Mood: Fullerenes

[*] posted on 20-11-2018 at 17:59


I wash it with boiling water and alcohol to be safe.

For affixing it you could try covering a glass slide in a slurry of silica and water, then baking it on




Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Chemguy5
Harmless
*




Posts: 27
Registered: 11-7-2018
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 20-11-2018 at 19:14


From my research they mix the silicon dioxide with plaster of Paris then they spread the slurry onto a glass or plastic slide and I believe dry in an oven.

The silicon dioxide I have is "HOT SHOT BED BIG KILLER DUST WITH DIATOMACEOUS EARTH"
Ingredients: silicon dioxide......85%
Other ingredients..15%

I'll wash this with water and IPA or MeOH like VESPR said.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
beerwiz
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 128
Registered: 6-2-2014
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 21-11-2018 at 00:47


Diatomaceous Earth is CELITE and it has no adsorbent properties, most compounds will go straight through it, there's no retention. Your silicon dioxide may work, but there's only one way to find out and that is to try it. There are Youtube videos on how to make your own TLC plates.

[Edited on 21-11-2018 by beerwiz]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
mayko
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1218
Registered: 17-1-2013
Location: Carrboro, NC
Member Is Offline

Mood: anomalous (Euclid class)

[*] posted on 21-11-2018 at 06:18


Some products (cimexa, iirc) use fumed silica instead of diatomaceous earth, if that might work better



al-khemie is not a terrorist organization
"Chemicals, chemicals... I need chemicals!" - George Hayduke
"Wubbalubba dub-dub!" - Rick Sanchez
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User

  Go To Top