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[*] posted on 10-7-2008 at 22:04
Vacuum Filtering moisture sensitive crystals


Anyone have a good generalised technique for the vacuum filtration of crystals from cold dry solutions. My particular problems lies with the water condensation from the air on the ~40 crystals as they solvate quickly.
Currently i manage it barely by insulating the buchner, filling it with the solution/crystal mixture, covering it with filter paper and a piece glass then applying suction. It is winter here and the ambient floor is around ~15C so it not like there is huge amounts of moisture.
How is it done with moisture sensitive crystals that react with water, as i imagine i could not manage it with this technique. I don't have any circumstance in mind but i can't think of how it may be done simply and this bothers me. Maybe there is no real way to do it simply.




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[*] posted on 11-7-2008 at 06:31


For such sensitive compounds, schlenk vac filtration technics are usually used. This consists of a double male-end tube, with a glass frit in the middle, and inlets for vacuum and inert gas. One side is connected to the schlenk containing the slurry/suspension, and a empty flask on the other side, evrytthing properly purged etc. The whole setup is then tilted quickly so that the slurry/suspension is tranfered to the filtration tube, and then either inert gas over pressure or slight vacuum is applied, to push/pull the supernatant into the empty flask, leaving the product on the glass frit. It can then be washed by introducing cold, dry, degassed solvent into the first flask, rincing the flask and tilting the setup again to wash the crystals. Then they can be dried by applying vacuum for a while, and either kept in the sealed tube until further use, or transfered to a flask etc to be sealed under inert gas...

Indeed, this isn't a easy/practical way to do at home. You could use a "dry box" made from a large sealeable box in plastic or a larger esistant plastic bag with holes for your hands, throw in some dessicant for a few hours, then do your filtration and transfert your solids into adessicator directly. This could only be suitable for somewhat water sensitive compounds, the most delicate one will need rigorous inert conditions.


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