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[*] posted on 19-2-2019 at 20:52
Use Diesel Fuel for a Stronger Vacuum with Water Aspirator?


im boiling water at around 39C at 30C room temperature and 32C water aspirator temperature.
Im having the water cycle through a bucket with a fuel pump.

would using diesel fuel increase the vacuum by a lot?
if yes by how much?

I would put a gas washing bottle in between to not infuse the diesel with chemicals.


I know you can cool the water but thats very unprecise cause it thaws quickly.



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[*] posted on 19-2-2019 at 22:27


I think that thicker liquids provide higher vacuums. Mineral oil is used sometimes but it is messy.



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[*] posted on 20-2-2019 at 01:34


As long as it is inert and liquid the only thing that matters is vapor pressure. Do not use fuel, use some high boiling oil or a glycol. You can also decrease the vapor pressure by cooling your liquid of choice. Personally i would rather spend the money on a better pump than risk making a huge mess with glycerol or mineral oil, i do not trust my aspirator at all.
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[*] posted on 20-2-2019 at 17:20


You can't run a closed circuit vacuum aspirator using mineral oil or glycerol, they are too viscus. They are hard to pump through and the high viscosity causes them to heat up very quickly so they can't really be used for this application.

I have actually been playing with the idea of making a very high vaccuum aspirator using a low vapor pressure fluid for awhile, but haven't gotten around to it. The ideal working liquid has a high boiling point, low viscosity and is insoluble in water or whatever you are vacuum distilling.
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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 13:25


If you are starting to look at exotic fluids for your aspirator, maybe its time to just buy a mechanical vacuum pump.



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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 14:19


I have a vacuum pump, its more about the novelty of building an aspirator that could produce a vacuum comparable to a single stage pump.
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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 14:28


Quote: Originally posted by walruslover69  
I have a vacuum pump, its more about the novelty of building an aspirator that could produce a vacuum comparable to a single stage pump.


use mercury then:D it would make a better vacuum than a single stage rotary vane vacuum pump





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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 15:04


And if you're going to use mercury then a sprengel pump might be the answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprengel_pump




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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 15:54


Quote: Originally posted by Twospoons  
And if you're going to use mercury then a sprengel pump might be the answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprengel_pump


i was referring to that:P





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[*] posted on 21-2-2019 at 20:23


codys lab , youtube channel actually has a video on the sprengel pump.


diesel didnt do anything when I used it in my aspirator pump.
same vacuum like water.


the problem is its hard to get a vacuum pump around here...
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[*] posted on 22-2-2019 at 01:12


Quote: Originally posted by LuckyWinner  
codys lab , youtube channel actually has a video on the sprengel pump.


diesel didnt do anything when I used it in my aspirator pump.
same vacuum like water.


the problem is its hard to get a vacuum pump around here...


you could use a modified tire compressor, there are many youtube videos about it.





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