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[*] posted on 22-2-2019 at 11:55
Trying my hand at genetically modifying plants


Hey again! So, as a side project other than school I became more and more fascinated with plants. I also love the idea of changing a plant's color through GMO. Literally 5 minutes ago I learnt that hydrangea's can change color depending on soil pH. I was wondering how I could do this, would I use a base plasmid and use gibson assembly to insert the DNA for the dye? I also can't seem to find the gene for the dye, if you could help me look for this that would be great.

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[*] posted on 22-2-2019 at 13:06


I don't know which one you need to target, but remember there is probably more than one copy.
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[*] posted on 22-2-2019 at 15:13


Yeah, probably right. I need to find out which ones though.
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[*] posted on 22-2-2019 at 16:48



hydrangea pigments are anthocyanins; this looks like a good place to start on their molecular biology (it includes a section on changing petunia colors via genetic engineering).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC160913/




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[*] posted on 23-2-2019 at 05:26


If you want to make white flowers, using RNA interference would be a relatively easy way to suppress the pigment-producing genes. See for example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18369790



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[*] posted on 23-2-2019 at 06:08


Quote: Originally posted by Metacelsus  
If you want to make white flowers, using RNA interference would be a relatively easy way to suppress the pigment-producing genes. See for example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18369790


Probably a good way to go, maybe you can design your RNAi to target a domain specific to your protein
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[*] posted on 23-2-2019 at 21:02


I don't want to make white flowers, I want to take the pigment gene and put it inside of another plant.

[Edited on 24-2-2019 by Nate]
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[*] posted on 23-2-2019 at 21:54


I found the pigment! I have yet to find the gene for it but I have learned the name of the pigment. As stated before it's a pH-dependent pigment, it's not a protein like I thought. The compound's name is delphinidin-3- glucoside. I'll continue to look for the gene in the NCBI database.

Edit: Can someone tell me how to prepare Mutashige and Skoog media?

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[*] posted on 24-2-2019 at 00:32


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murashige_and_Skoog_medium#Ing...

You'll need some way to sterilize it; do you have an autoclave?




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[*] posted on 24-2-2019 at 01:57


No, but I do have a pressure cooker. I really need to invest in one.
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[*] posted on 24-2-2019 at 17:16


I've been looking into this (on a minimal level b/c I don't fully understand it). What I'm wondering is if you can take a plant that produces some kind of alkaloid or material (the sap, or material in the sap) and engineer another plant (possibly in the same family/genus) to produce the same alkaloid or material.

The ones I was most interested in are rubber latex (so rubber can be produced from something other than the rubber tree) and opium poppies.

For the rubber latex, it would be REALLY great if a plant could be engineered that is grown as a perennial crop, like corn, instead of having to rely on plantations of 7-25yr old trees for production. These plants are a clonal monoculture (all spawns/clones from one source) and are very susceptible to a blight that could destroy an entire nation or continent's rubber trees. If it was an annual crop, this wouldn't be such a big issue if you loose one year's crop and if a disease appeared, destroying the crops is much easier than having to destroy a forest that takes 7 years to reach production stage (and only 15 years of production per tree on average). It would also be great if a plant that could be grown in less tropical climates could be created so we aren't dependent on Asia for 80-90% of rubber output. If the production amount could also be increased, that would be a HUGE help.

If you want to make SERIOUS moeny (like many billions), then work on finding a way to engineer a blight resistant rubber tree. w/o rubber, our world would be F'd b/c synthetic rubber is no where near the same properties. Natural rubber is really an amazing substance - you will find it in some high end electronics (power tools - Matabo, Hilti & maybe some good hot plate stirrers, b/c they are more resistant to higher heat, bending etc, but the process to make the power cords is much more expensive - you have to mold the cord with molten lead that cools & contracts to be removed once it is cooled. This acts as a compression to give it perfect form & part of the vulcanization process I believe).

I'm wondering if plants like poison hemlock, milkweed and others that produce a "latex" like material could be modified to produce a "rubber latex" since they already have similar sap's.

As far as the opium poppy, being able to engineer what alkaloids are produced instead of it producing 7-20 different alkaloids, would be very helpful in the pharmaceutical industry. If another plant (that grow larger in size) could be made to produce these alkaloids in a perennial crop, that would also be a huge benefit. All of this would also reduce the funding in drug running and terrorism $$ that comes from the sale of opium from "those regions", where pharmaceutical companies buy raw opium for production of their products (IDK the %, there are many legit poppy crops like in Turkey, Tasmania and I think France).

Is there a name for trying to get a plant to produce an alkaloid other than what it normally produces? Might it be easier if the alkaloid that it already produces is similar in molecular makeup to the desired compound, or does it really matter if it is being engineered from the ground up.

[Edited on 2-25-2019 by RogueRose]
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[*] posted on 25-2-2019 at 00:19


Quote: Originally posted by RogueRose  

As far as the opium poppy, being able to engineer what alkaloids are produced instead of it producing 7-20 different alkaloids, would be very helpful in the pharmaceutical industry. If another plant (that grow larger in size) could be made to produce these alkaloids in a perennial crop, that would also be a huge benefit. All of this would also reduce the funding in drug running and terrorism $$ that comes from the sale of opium from "those regions", where pharmaceutical companies buy raw opium for production of their products (IDK the %, there are many legit poppy crops like in Turkey, Tasmania and I think France).


See this paper from 3 years ago which uses yeast: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26272907

I was at a seminar given by Prof. Smolke last year and she mentioned her lab is working on some improvements to the process. (Also see here: http://smolkelab.weebly.com/research.html)




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[*] posted on 2-3-2019 at 22:54


Quote: Originally posted by RogueRose  

Is there a name for trying to get a plant to produce an alkaloid other than what it normally produces? Might it be easier if the alkaloid that it already produces is similar in molecular makeup to the desired compound, or does it really matter if it is being engineered from the ground up.

[Edited on 2-25-2019 by RogueRose]

This is simply called biotechnology :D
It involves all the processes being used to enslave some organism to produce an organic chemical, be it a pharmaceutical, an intermediate, even the precursors to pharmaceuticals.

It depends on the organism of course, also the ability can be engineerded into an organism, but some produce already unengineered some precursors which is unrelated to compounds produced by them, usually if something unrelated to it is added to a culture of them.
For example amino alcohols being made from a precursor produced by yeast(famous for l-PAC, less famously for example (S)-3-chlorophenylpropanol from the corresponding ketone).
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[*] posted on 7-3-2022 at 11:28


Quote: Originally posted by Nate  
No, but I do have a pressure cooker.


You have an autoclave. Autoclaves are just specialized pressure cookers. You put some water in the bottom of the pressure cooker. Put all the components of the desired media plus agar mixed with water in a suitable bottle or erlenmeyer flask, cover top with aluminum foil or loose cap. Put top on pressure cooker, heat up until water boiling and steam blowing out vent. Put the weight on the vent or activate whatever the mechanism is for holding the steam in under pressure. Heat to 15psi, hold there for 20 minutes, shut off heat, let cool until pressure back at atmospheric and below boiling. Cool to about 65-70°C. This is cool enough you can just barely keep your hand on the flask indefinitely. Take out flask/bottle, swirl, add any antibiotics or other heat sensitive components needed for plates. These should be filter sterilized through a syringe filter or similar filter for sterilization. swirl to mix, then pour as any of the many video examples on you tube such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey19jM6y7-c

That's it for autoclaving and pouring agar plates.
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[*] posted on 27-8-2022 at 17:55


Don't be discouraged, but it is rare to have a single gene make a pigment. For example, human melanin production requires at least eight genes. You should also be aware that many plants are poyploid (have more than a pair of each chromosome). For example, potatos are tetraploid which makes the result of changing one gene unpredictable.
I am ettaching an excelent general guide to plant biotechnology for you.
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[*] posted on 27-8-2022 at 17:56


OOps, messed up the attachment but here it is now

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[*] posted on 21-2-2023 at 06:34


If you want some info about DIY sterile teqniques look at the mushroom growing comunity, they got all info about pressure cooker sterilizations, glove boxes, sterile flow hoods etc.
There are also many pdf ebooks about sterile plant growing, modifying plants and similar such things.
I attach a PDF about tissue culture growing.

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