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[*] posted on 18-4-2019 at 16:39
Trying to get rid of chemicals. Nearish Philadelphia


My father recently (December) passed away and he had a ton of chemicals and related equipment.

I'd like to get rid of these chemicals ASAP, as having them at home is concerning given my ignorance.

Largely, my father was into explosives. He made bombs since 15 years old, got super into chemistry, was in EOD, etc.

Anyway, here's what I have:


In particular, I have:

- chemicals

-- Aluminum Powder

-- Ammonium dichromate, extra pure

-- Ammonium perchlorate

-- Ammonium Sylfate fert

-- Ammonium Sylphate

-- Barium hydroxide octahydrate, Hi-LR

-- Barium nitrate, purified

-- Ca(OH)2

-- CaC2

-- CaCl Anhyd

-- CaCO3

-- Calcium Chloride

-- Chromium trioxide

-- Copper Sulphate (CuSO4)

-- Copper(I) cyanide

-- Copper(II) bromide

-- Cupric Nitrate

-- Dichloromethane

-- Dichloromethane (DCM)

-- ethyl Alcohol 95%

-- Ferric nitrate nonahydrate

-- Formaldehyde

-- Hexamine

-- Hydrazine Sulphate

-- Iodyne chrystals

-- Iron boride

-- Iron Filings, Fine

-- Lead dioxide

-- Lead nitrate

-- Litnium hydroxide monohydrate

-- Medrcury(II) acetate

-- Methanol

-- Methyl red 0.05%

-- Methylene blue %

-- MgSO4 Anhyd

-- N2H4NO3

-- Na2CO3

-- NaHCO3

-- NH4Cl

-- Nickel Boride

-- Phenolphtalein solution 1%

-- Phosphorus Pentoxide (P2O5)

-- Potassium Bromide

-- Potassium chromate

-- Potassium Ferrocyanide

-- Potassium Iodide

-- Potassium Permanganate

-- Red Phosphorus

-- Silver Nitrate

-- Sodium Acetate Anhydrous

-- Sodium Amide (NaNH2)

-- Sodium Azide

-- Sodium Cyanide

-- Sodium Fluoride Anhyd. 98%

-- Sodium Nitrite

-- sodium tert-butoxide

-- Sodium Tetraborate

-- Sodium Thiosulfate

-- Stannous chloride dihydrate, ACS

-- Strontium Nitrate, extra pure

-- Urea

- glassware

-- lots of stuff. flasks, beakers, whatever. About 100 units total. High-quality, though Chinese. In fancy boxes.



If there are any hobby chemists that would like to take the chemicals off my hands, please contact me ASAP.
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[*] posted on 18-4-2019 at 18:09


Your dad had quite a collection. I am sorry to hear of your loss.

There are only a couple things that might cause problemz.

Sodium Azide - poisonous, no throwing it around
Sodium Amide - water sensitive, fire hazard
Potassium tert-butoxide - water sensitive, fire hazard
Phosphorus Pentoxide - water sensitive, fire hazard

You dont want to eat anything, and always wash your hands, but the ones above are really the only ones to take care with, and that's because they are potentially reactive or water sensitive. Yeah, the cyanide salt is poisonous (the copper one not so much), but not too much of a burden. Bleach will help with any spills.

I am in Virginia if you happen to be coming this way.

[Edited on 19-4-2019 by Loptr]




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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 04:44


If I were in the US I would definitely be tempted to buy some of these. Alas, I don't think the hassle of international shipping would be worth it.

It might be a good idea for a mod to move this thread to the "Reagents and Apparatus" subforum.




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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 04:54


Quote: Originally posted by Metacelsus  
If I were in the US I would definitely be tempted to buy some of these. Alas, I don't think the hassle of international shipping would be worth it.
Same for me:(



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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 07:30


I would totally take them off your hands, but I live in the west coast

[Edited on 19-4-2019 by Nate]
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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 08:42


I would definitely take the CaC2, NaNH2, P2O5, Hydrazine salts (Sulfate & Nitrate), DCM, Red P, Silver Nitrate, Sodium Cyanide and Stannous Chloride off your hands, but I live in Maine. Not too far away, but we've got all of New England between us and then some. I don't know if you'd ship but message me if you've got an idea.



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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 10:05


I'd take the glassware, ammonium dichromate, lithium hydroxide, DCM, methanol, methylene blue, methyl red, formaldehyde, sodium tert-butoxide, copper cyanide, and the potassium iodide.

[Edited on 19-4-2019 by Nate]
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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 15:39


I'll categorise that list by the major hazards for each substance.

Things that don't present any major hazards:

  • Ammonium sulphate
  • Calcium hydroxide / Ca(OH)2
  • Calcium chloride / CaCl2
  • Calcium carbonate / CaCO3
  • Copper (II) sulphate (CuSO4)
  • Copper (II) bromide
  • Iron Filings, Fine
  • Urea
  • Sodium carbonate / Na2CO3
  • Sodium bicarbonate / NaHCO3
  • Ammonium chloride / NH4Cl
  • Sodium Acetate
  • Sodium Tetraborate
  • Sodium Thiosulfate
  • Phenolphthalein solution
  • Methyl red solution
  • Methylene blue solution
  • Lithium hydroxide
  • Potassium Bromide
  • Potassium Ferrocyanide
  • Potassium Iodide
  • Barium hydroxide
  • Magnesium sulphate / MgSO4
  • Red Phosphorus
  • sodium tert-butoxide
  • Stannous chloride


Poisons:

  • Sodium azide - extreme acute toxicity, also contact with acids liberates extremely toxic gas. Contact with metals and metal salts can form explosive salts.
  • Sodium cyanide - extreme acute toxicity, also contact with acids liberates extremely toxic gas
  • Copper (I) cyanide - acute toxicity, also contact with acids liberates extremely toxic gas
  • Sodium fluoride - acute toxicity
  • Mercury(II) acetate - soluble heavy metal, very toxic with long-term effects
  • Lead nitrate - soluble heavy metal, very toxic with long-term effects
  • Hydrazine nitrate / N2H4NO3 - acute toxicity
  • Barium nitrate - acute/chronic toxicity
  • Sodium Nitrite - acute toxicity
  • Hydrazine Sulphate - acute toxicity


Oxidizers - keep these away from flammables as contact may result in flames:

  • Potassium permanganate
  • Ammonium perchlorate
  • Chromium trioxide - also, carcinogenic and polluting
  • Ammonium dichromate - also, carcinogenic and polluting
  • Copper (II) nitrate / Cupric nitrate
  • Silver Nitrate - also, stains skin and polluting
  • Strontium Nitrate, extra pure
  • Iodine - also, toxic by ingestion
  • Ferric nitrate nonahydrate


Flammables:

  • Methanol - also, acute toxicity
  • Aluminum Powder
  • ethyl Alcohol 95% - also, carcinogen
  • Hexamine


Special considerations:

  • Calcium carbide / CaC2 - contact with water releases flammable/explosive gas
  • Sodium Amide (NaNH2) - reacts violently with water. Contact with air can result in explosive oxidation products forming during storage - do not open the container. Should be light grey/white, if it's yellow - you have a problem.
  • Phosphorus Pentoxide (P2O5) - reacts violently with water
  • Sodium azide - extreme acute toxicity, also contact with acids liberates extremely toxic gas. Contact with metals and metal salts can form explosive salts.


Not sure how to categorise these:

  • Dichloromethane / DCM / methylene chloride - carcinogen, minor acute toxicity by inhalation/skin contact
  • Formaldehyde - carcinogen
  • Iron boride
  • Lead dioxide
  • Nickel Boride
  • Potassium chromate - carcinogen, polluting

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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 17:04


Ahhh.
How come no one in my little corner of the world ever wants to offload a haul like this.

Someone (or ones) will be very happy with this selection. You should easily be able to find someone reasonably local to you to pick everything up: either for personal use or for further distribution.




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[*] posted on 19-4-2019 at 21:48


I'd gladly pay the shipping. I'm in Minnesota.

I certainly could use the red phosphorus.

[Edited on 4/20/19 by PirateDocBrown]




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[*] posted on 20-4-2019 at 16:40


Quote: Originally posted by PirateDocBrown  
I'd gladly pay the shipping. I'm in Minnesota.

I certainly could use the red phosphorus.

[Edited on 4/20/19 by PirateDocBrown]


The OP likely isn't capable of properly shipping these items.




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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 02:29


I'd def be interested in the tin chloride, and silver nitrate after Rhodanide.



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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 03:23


Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  
Quote: Originally posted by PirateDocBrown  
I'd gladly pay the shipping. I'm in Minnesota.

I certainly could use the red phosphorus.



The OP likely isn't capable of properly shipping these items.


RP is not terribly dangerous, in a bottle. As long as the truck doesn't catch on fire.

It's WP that would be a hazard.




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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 05:47


Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  
Quote: Originally posted by PirateDocBrown  
I'd gladly pay the shipping. I'm in Minnesota.

I certainly could use the red phosphorus.

[Edited on 4/20/19 by PirateDocBrown]


The OP likely isn't capable of properly shipping these items.


I don't think he's going to sell any of them. I was in contact with him, and now he's not responding to any emails. :(
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 06:23


Maybe email issues, as always, did you check your spam folder etc?



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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 06:47


I cant imagine him splitting this up and selling it. The guys father just passed. He just wants to get rid of it. Honor his original post and conditions.



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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 06:57


Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  
I cant imagine him splitting this up and selling it. The guys father just passed. He just wants to get rid of it. Honor his original post and conditions.
Maybe he didn't expect to have so many responses and so decide to sell it instead of giving out for free?



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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 08:49


Hi there! Just following up here.

A few things:
- I appreciate all of your responses. There's also a reddit thread going in /r/chemistry, and people PMing me, so it's bit a bit overwhelming :) Catching up.
- since this original post, I have sorted through all of the chemicals, found 20 not in that original list, and have placed them into containers according to their type (acid, base, whatever) instructed by a professional.
- since I feel like they "safe" now, I'm kinda tempted to keep them... The other night I got really into chemistry videos and I'm at a crossroads deciding whether to keep them or to give/sell them.
- As such - some people have messaged me privately - sorry I hadn't gotten back to you yet. I've been at this crossroads while sorting through the pile of chemicals, and I need a bit more time to process.
- *that* said, if I do keep stuff, I probably wouldn't keep the *really* crazy stuff (except for the pure metals, noted below)
- I've had some chemists over. Apparently the glassware ain't that good. Chinese stuff they weren't impressed with and weren't interested in.

The things not in the original list, btw:
- ammonium carbonate, Hi-AR/ACS
- Boric Acid
- Ca(NO3)2
- Calcium Chloride CaCl2
- Calcium Nitrate Annydrous
- Fe2O3
- ferric chloride anydrous
- Hydrocloric Acid (lol)
- hydrogen peroxide
- KNO3
- L-Absorbic Acid Powder
- magnesium nitrate hexahydrate, acs
- MgSO4 Anhyd
- N2H4NO3 FERT
- NH4CO3 fert
- Niacin
- Nitric Acid
- oxalic acid
- Sodium Benzoate
- Sodium Carbonate Na2CO3
- Sodium Metabisulfite
- Sodium Tetraborate
- Sodium Thiosulfate
- Sulfur

Also, I found a jar with smaller jars in them.
These smaller jars seem to have pure metals:
- Potassium
- Calcium
- Sodium

This all said, if anyone in the Philly suburbs feels like educating someone on Chemistry and seeing a garage full of chemicals, hit me up :)

[Edited on 21-4-2019 by StanleyKodak]
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 09:16


Be very careful with the reactive metals, especially potassium.
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 09:35


I appreciate the warning. They're very very contained, and I plan on *not* opening the containers.
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 17:11


U2u sent. I know people in the area who are capable of safely dealing with most of that material.
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 18:51


Has anyone read the Reddit post of this topic? I'm more referring to the replies. There seems to be some major chemophobia going on over there at a height I wouldn't have thought possible in a dedicated chemistry forum. It seems that some of these people think of these chemicals the same as guns (even if they are in a locked safe they might walk out and shoot someone).
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 19:05


That's /r/chemistry if you're not part of the priest class.
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[*] posted on 21-4-2019 at 19:16


Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Rogers  
That's /r/chemistry if you're not part of the priest class.


So that is their normal "MO" over there? Much of it read like what you might hear in an 8th grade science class (in public school) when trying to scare kids to be careful with the chemicals (like dihydrogen monoxide, sodium bicarbonate and 5% acetic acid).

I expected more over there but I guess I was a little spoiled by coming here first.
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