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Explosive SEX and TAX
SEX (QDX) = 1-acetyloctahydro-3,5,7-trinitro-1,3,5,7-tetrazocine
TAX = acethylhexahydrodinitrotriazine (USA)
Preparation of 1-Acetyl-3,5-dinitrohexahydro-s-triazine.
Albright & Hanson
Industrial and Laboratory Nitrations
ACS Symposium Series 22
ACS 1975
Ch 23. EE Gilbet & et al
The Preparation of RDX from 1,3,5-Tricylhexahydro-s-triazines.
djh
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Road Rage
Rattled
The latest battle over license plates
The Economist 11xii10
But for whom does a license plate speak? In a sense, it clearly speaks for
the government. It communicates that a particular car has been registered
by a particular state. But the law also recognizes that the humans in charge'
of the car have some say, too. The Supreme Court recognized as much in a
1977 decision, Wooley v Maynard, which held that New Hampshire could
not require plates bearing the state motto "Life Free or Die". Alternatives
had to be introduced (presumably to cater for those who preferred a life of servitude).
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(Insert chemical names and reference here).
Look, I can do it too!
[Edited on 10-1-2011 by psychokinetic]
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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The more cleaver here -- when they read something new --
call it Learning. What do your people call it?
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It's learning, and the word is clever, but one does not need to make a new thread about every new thing learned. Nor does one need to make said thread
ambiguous and without context.
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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Quote: Originally posted by psychokinetic  | | It's learning, and the word is clever, but one does not need to make a new thread about every new thing learned. Nor does one need to make said thread
ambiguous and without context. |
A some what obscure reference i.e., book is "without context."?!?
In my little world posts w/o ref's — like books w/o biblio's
are of limited if any use.
Start a new thread... there seems upon my mind the
feeling here among some — that nothing new has been discovered
after this board had been in operation for its first 90 days,
therefore everything has to be stuff into a previous topic...!
Beware of bookkeepers running an asylum.
[Trivia - speaking of bookkeepers.... what is the only world
in English with 4 consecutive double letters?]
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Wiz - yet one more pathetic cry for attention.
what's next, a shooting spree perhaps ?
Explosive Diarrhea anyone ?
not to be confused with Diurea.
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yet one more pathetic cry for attention..
A/ Your ad hominem attack does you little credit.
B/ Moi?! No. Usenet group —
Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Nospam.Post-Yourself-Nude is la place for that.
C/ What we have here is what the Romans's called—
Condemnant Quod Non Intellegunt
{con-demn-nant kwod non in-tell-e-gunt}
PS It's WiZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by franklyn | Wiz - yet one more pathetic cry for attention.
what's next, a shooting spree perhaps ?
Explosive Diarrhea anyone ?
not to be confused with Diurea.
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What this group needs is a place for aside's i.e.,
a place for a temporary departure from a main theme or topic.
To keep the humorless/self centered/high sense of self
entitlement/bookkeepers happy.
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Does Diurea burn more than diarrhoea?
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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Forgive a weakness in the flesh — for I cannot resist.
I would paraphrase François-Marie Arouet.
I am sitting in the smallest room in the house....
your post is in front of me ... soon it will behind.
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Do you have no thoughts of your own?
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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Now-then.....
Letter's upon the editor. Published in the local good only
for wrapping dead fish newspaper.
The recent death of Brig. Gen. Paul W. Tibbets Jr., pilot of the B-29
Superfortress the Enola Gay which on 6 August 1945 dropped the
first atomic bomb on Japan, once again brings to mind the question
of the morality of the twin American bombings. Putting aside the
fact that a strong case can be made that the bombings saved many
more Japanese lives then were lost in both bombings, for had the
Japanese as was widely expected fought to the last, the allies
were more than willing to meet their wishes with a Carthaginian
Solution.
The question can be best answered with another question -- my
mother (pushing up the daisies lo these past 10 years) strongly
objected to the bombings. I was pained to point out to her that at
the time both her brothers, one her twin, were serving with the
US Army. I inquired if she was willing to see them killed during an
invasion of the Japanese home islands if their death(s) would have
saved Japanese lives? I would inquire of the reader what their
moral calculus provides -- would they have been willing to give
their lives, that of a brother-father-son…. if their death(s) would
have saved X number of Japanese lives? I will extend to the
current reader the same courtesy provided to my mother by not
requesting a reply.
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As an addendum I would add – following Operation Desert Storm,
someone from Green Peace wrote a letter to the NY Times in
which he complained the “Operation” was unfair because of the
much larger number of Iraqi casualties. I infer he felt not enough
Americans had been killed. The brother of a fellow employee, 29-
year old Cpt. Mario Fajarado, an Ecudorian immigrant, was killed
while dismantling Iraqi landmines. After speaking to him at length,I
can say with assurance that he, his mother and sister all feel that
more than enough Americans were killed during Operation Desert
Storm.
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Directed evolution
Those who except Directed Evolution as a fact are obligated to also
accept as fact -- their deity is of the female gender. I offer as
proof that by whatever method, the highest evolved life forms on
his planet are the placental mammals. The highest evolved
lacental mammal consists of a single species – Homo sapiens
i.e.,people. In the female human under hormonal control on a
approximate monthly basis, eggs pop out of the ovaries and then
mcarch off singing merreraly, GPS’s in hand down a pathway
named or the 16th centaury anatomist Gabriele Fallopius to the
womb, here they await the arrival of their male DNA carrying
partners to ome marching in Wagner’s Entrance of the gods into
Valhallalaying in the background. From thousands of suitors each
egg will chose one. Thus paired they will attach to the womb – the
two becoming one – the one, two – the two, four - &c., &c., until
nine months latter a blessed, albeit sadly not always welcome
event takes place. However, if their male DNA carrying counter
parts fails to arrive - having been blocked at either transmitting or
receiving end,spatially disrupted (Coitus interruptus AKA The crime
of Onan), killed by chemical warfare or for reasons either social or
psychological -- after several days it’s Götterdämmerung! Unlike
Valhalla -- the womb does not burn -- its lining (the dometrium)
sloths off, in turn the endometrium, blood and nfertilized eggs are
flushed out through the (insert the Latin word for a knife sheaf). No
male deity would engineer such a wasteful, basically disgusting
system. If evolution had been directed by a male deity – women
would lay eggs.
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Donald Haarmann 22iii90
This is IT!!!
Published in the PGII Bulletin
During 1932 the English physicist Sir James Chadwick
bombarding light elements with alpha particles discovers the
neutron. Two years latter Italian physicist En¬rico Fermi in Rome
finds that elements bombarded with neutrons frequently captured
them. Fermi then bombards all available elements, producing
unexpected results with uranium. In 1939 Hahn and Strassmann in
Germany discover, contrary to all theoretical expectations,
uranium bombared with neutrons splits producing barium. Lise
Meitner and Otto Frisch call the process "fission" after the term
used for cell division. December 1942, Ernico Fermi now in
Chicago, assistants standing by, buckets of boric acid solution in
hand, puts theory into practice and creates the first chain reaction.
The genie out of the bottle! Three uses for fission are apparent:
- Production of power
- Manufacture of isotopes
- A nuclear bomb
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In a world at war the choice is obvious. Expatiate Hungarian
physicists and Nobel prize winners Eugene Wigner and Leo Szilard
(who with Albert Einstein in 1928 designed and patented a
refrigerator!) track down Einstein to his summer house at
Cutchogue, Long Island, and convince him to sign the now famous
letter to President Roosevelt.
In turn the "Manhattan Engineering District" is created. On
16 of July, 1945 at Alamogordo, N.M. the Project tests its creation.
Within less then a millionth of a second of detonation, large
amounts of energy in the form of invisible X-rays ab-sorbed by the
atmosphere, produce a hot (tens of millions of degrees) highly
luminous, spherical mass of air and gaseous weapon residues - the
"fireball." The fireball rises drawing up dirt and debris from the
surface. The cloud initially red or reddish brown, due to the
presence of colored compounds (nitrous acid, and oxides of
nitrogen) changes to white as the fireball cools and condensation
occurs creating the familiar mushroom cloud.
On the 6th and 9th of August, 1945 other devices are put to
good use. Six days later a war paid for with forty-five million lives
ends. Churchill's, "iron cur-tain" descends on Europe, and it's toe-
to-toe with the Russians.
Some believe that what separates man from beast, is the
ability to think about the unthinkable. Perhaps. However, in my
opinion. What separates us is -- the ability to quantify the
unthinkable! Larger devices are planned.
On the 1st of November, 1952 fission devices are joined by
fission-fussion, and fission-fussion-fission ones - a/k/a the
Hydrogen bomb. Although lithium is used not hydrogen.
Photographs of the tests superimposed over a photograph of
Manhattan island are widely circulated. The fireball and mushroom
cloud become part of the post war cul¬ture. The hands of the
clock approaching midnight, "CD" drills - fallout shelters - arm
bands - "Take Cover drills" follow.
On the Friday, the 5th of June 1953, around 3:18PM
employees of the Alco Fireworks company, on Rosine street, two
miles from the center of downtown Houston are assembling set
pieces in the warehouse. There being no law forbidding the
manufacture of fireworks in the city the plant is sited with several
other business and small industrial establishments on a mostly
residential block. Residents of the area live with this unusual
establishment unaware that two unmarked, corrugated steel
buildings, just across the alley from Alco, contain eighty-thousand
pounds of black powder!!
During assembly one piece ignites - sparks spew over the
interior of the warehouse - the employees flee. Fifteen seconds
latter the warehouse disin-tegrates. Windows within a mile radius
shatter, others two miles away break. Small frame houses are
crushed. Combustible material within a 1000-foot radius is
ignited. All but the strongest structures within a radius of one
quarter mile are damaged, thirty beyond repair. Two women and
two children in a frame house nearest the warehouse are killed.
Ninety-six people receive minor injures. The sound of the explosion
is heard fifteen miles away.
Half of the black powder having been converted into hot
gasses: nitrogen, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, methane,
hydrogen sulphide, and hydrogen, caries the forty tons remaining
solid: potassium - carbonate, sulphate, thiosulphate, sulphide,
thiocyanate, and ammonium carbonate into the air as white
smoke. Joined within two minutes by black smoke from burning
buildings -- forming a large mush¬room shaped cloud.............!
Further reading:
National Academy of Sciences - National Research Council,
Disaster Study Number 2. A Study of Response to The Houston,
Texas, Fireworks Explosion. 1956.
Out of the icebox, into the fire. Stephen Moss. New Scientist,
23/30 December 1989 (Einstein's refrigerator.)
The Effects of Nuclear Weapons. US Dept. of Defense. 1962
Reflections on the discovery of fission. Rudolf Peierls. Nature,
21/28 December, 1989.
Added-
The Einstein-Szilard Refrigerators. Gene Damnen
Scientific American 276:1 90&ff January 1997
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Refused by the local paper —
11vii07
Rhymes with Witch.
NY City Councilwomen Darlene Mealy had introduced a measure
(in the City Council) against the word, saying it creates “a
paradigm of shame and indignity” for all women.
While I am unwilling to comment of the utility/social engineering
value of this measure, I would suggest that the “B” word is not the
only one that “creates a paradigm of shame and indignity for all
women.” Therefore I suggest adding (in alphabetical order) to her
measure :-- Amazon, battle-ax, bimbo, bitch, broad, hussy, chick
, concubine, coquette, courtesan, a word that in middle English
original meant an empty or hollow space frequently preceded by
the adjective “dumb”, fishwife, flirt, fury, hag, harlot, harpy,
hoyden, hussy, jade, maenad, minx, mistress, randy, scold,
seductress, shrew, siren, slag (British) slattern, slut, snip,
sorceress, strumpet, tart, tease, temptress, termagant, tramp,
trifler, trollop, vamp, virago, vixen, wench and whore.
&c., &c., &c.
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WiZ, a forum with 9500 members will always contain a few envious whiners . . .
Engaging them is counterproductive!
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Yes and becoming a waste of bandwidth. He dobe a 1st Class
fussbudget. I am just having some fun and bringing him wood
to build his own gallows of great silliness.
Which reminds me of this bit of amateur experimentalism —
This entry should not be concluded without reference to the belief held by some who posed the hypothesis
that life could still continue after the guillotine had severed a victim's head; albeit perhaps for only a few
seconds. In the last century, when medical science was rapidly progressing, among those pursuing unusual
lines of investigation were several professors and doctors who argued that, unlike the axe, which stunned its
victim by the very shock of its initial impact, rendering him unconscious, the razor-sharp guillotine blade
sliced through flesh, nerves and tendons so rapidly that perhaps the life force continued to flow through the
brain for an unknown length of time. Perhaps a victim actually saw the basket coming up to meet him; was
aware of the triumphant shouts of the crowd maybe even heard the gushing sound of his own blood
pumping from his gaping neck and splashing on to the boards of the scaffold.
And because the severed vocal chords prevented him from speaking, perhaps if one were to conduct
experiments at the very moment of decapitation, maybe the victim could indicate in some other manner that
his brain still functioned.
This theory was investigated by, among others, a Dr Amirault who, in 1907, circulated blood from a living
dog into the head of a dead criminal, Menesclou, later reporting that 'the lips filled out, the eyelids twitched,
and after two hours the dog's heart had reactivated a living brain, and speech was a distinct possibility, for
the lips contracted as if about to speak'. One wonders what it would have said, had it been able.
Another medical man, Marcoux, experimented on murderer Magret, whose head had opportunely fallen
upright in the basket. Studying it, the worthy doctor described how he saw the muscles controlling the eyes
and lips twitching spasmodically, the eyelids half-closed. He placed his lips close to the right ear and called
Magret's name in a clear but not too loud voice, whereupon the eyes immediately opened and 'he looked at
me, focusing for ten to fifteen seconds - not a glassy stare but one of deliberate attention. Then the eyelids
closed, but when his name was called again, the eyes opened once more, following me as I moved around
the basket. And then the eyes closed again, never to reopen.'
In a similar experiment doctors stopped the flow of blood immediately after decapitation, using styptics,
while other doctors accurately repositioned the head back on the torso. Wasting no time, the join was
expertly and tightly bandaged, and smelling-salts were held under the nose. It was reported that an
expression passed across the face, and the eyelids twitched; the two parts of the victim were carefully
carried to a nearby house, but no further indications were evident and it became obvious that all life had
departed. No conclusions were ever reached as to whether the movements were deliberate or merely reflex
contractions of the muscles after death.
A more technical and detailed explanation, though not one which necessarily solves the mystery, is
provided by Dr Harold Hillman of the University of Surrey:
'Death occurs due to the separation of the brain and spinal cord, after transection of the surrounding
tissues, and must cause acute and probably severe pain. It may be presumed that the subject becomes
unconscious within a few seconds, but not immediately after, the spinal cord is severed.
'The eyes of small rodents move for a few seconds after biochemists have guillotined them. Anaesthetised
sheep lose the flash-evoked responses of their electrocorticographs about fourteen seconds after both
carotid arteries are severed, and seventy seconds after one carotid artery and one jugular vein are cut (vide
Gregory and Wotton, 1984). Dogs become unconscious twelve seconds after the blood supply to their
brains is occluded (Roberts, 1954). It has been calculated that the human brain has enough oxygen stored
for metabolism to persist about seven seconds after the supply is cut off (McIlwain and Bachelard, 1985).
However, the brain could well derive some of its energy from substrate in the scalp and facial and neck
muscles (Geiger and Magnes, 1947). It may be presumed that a beheaded person dies from anoxia
consequent upon haemorrhage.'
The calculation that about seven seconds' supply of oxygen remains in the brain after being guillotined
could well mean that the severed head could still see and hear after failing into the waiting basket; pending
volunteers, however, the question seems unlikely ever to be resolved.
Geoffery Abbott - Yoemahn Warder (retd.) HM Tower of London
Member of Her Majesty’s Bodyguard Of the Yoeman of the Guard Extraordinary
The Book of Execution: An Encyclopedia of Methods of Judicial Execution
Headline Book – London 1994
[I am willing to volunteer someone....]
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I must query, though.... That's all about other people's thoughts.
I'm less envious or than whiney, than confused and wonderous as to why. o.o'
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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Sissss B O O O M - BAAh !
The sound of exploding sheep
More sheep dip
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/sheep-help-sci...
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Sheep Fodder
and now a plant that will turn white at the sight of TNT eating sheep
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/01/grow-your-own-bomb-d...
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Cleaning up explosive eating sheep.....
He Gets a Charge Out of Outdoor Work Blowing Up Animals
But Mike Knodel Doesn't Like Inspecting the Old Mines He Also
Has to Exploded,
By QITENTIN HARDY
Staff Reporter of THE, WALL STREET JOURNAL
5XII97
PINEHURST, Idaho - Knee-deep in toxic water, Mike Knodel
flinches and claws at the cloud of gnats blocking Lookout Mountain
Mine. "Gee, I didn't hear about these," he says, stepping past a
broken timber toward darkness.
Mr. Knodel doesn't like surprises on the job. The known quantities
of Lookout Mountain Mine are trouble enough. Among them: 3,280
feet of shaft, with loose rock and rotted beams, bear spoor and rats
nests. Somewhere inside, seven cases of old dynamite have
broken down into a pile of stuff that includes nitroglycerin.
The explosives rank low on his list of perils. Mr. Knodel is the
Northern Region Blaster Examiner for the U.S. Forest Service, a
member of an unusual fraternity of government explosives-experts
trying to make nature more user-friendly by blowing things up. His
blasts have smoothed hiking trails, deepened fish ponds,
prevented avalanches and stopped forest fires. He sometimes
blows to smithereens the carcasses of large animals, which left
lying around attract bears and distress tourists.
Blowing shut some of the country's deadliest old mines is a big part
of his $22-an-hour job. For the most part, Mr. Knodel enjoys his
outdoor work. But he doesn't like to be in the mines. "I don't handle
tight spaces very well," Mr. Knodel says, grimacing as his hard hat
brushes against moss, "I can't imagine how people made a living in
these mines."
There are thousands of abandoned mines in the U.S., particularly
on the vast public lands of the West. The government calls them
"attractive nuisances," because they draw explorers who
occasionally wind up getting trapped or killed.
"We try putting up signs, and people ignore them," says James
Robbins, a mining engineer for the U.S. Bureau of Land
Management, who accompanies Mr. Knodel into Lookout Mountain.
"We put up bars, and they get torn down."
The government has stepped a years-long campaign to plug the
mines, and Mr. Knodel, who closes about two of them a month, has
knowing hands. One sign of his skill is that his hands remain
unscarred, unlike those of many who spend years with bombs. The
soft-spoken 52-year-old also has sidestepped bear traps set a
century ago by gold miners and fought through spider nests a foot
thick. Rattlesnakes like mines, despite levels of zinc, arsenic and
lead that kill off fish. .
At Lookout Mountain, the gnats add to the challenge. They thin out
as the men push forward, single file over a jumble of collapsed
support timbers, which are now as soggy as old breakfast cereal.
Mr. Knodel points out a pink paper tube stuck into a hole in the
ceiling, dangling a rat's tail of burned-out fuse. "Definitely a
charge," he says. Nearby is an empty crate of Vulcan ("a kick in
every stick") dynamite.
It would be easier to just close mines without inspecting them, but
that would be bad for the bats. All mines must first be closely
checked for moth wings, guano and other signs that bats have
moved in. Some species, such as Townsend's big-eared bat, are in
sharp decline. If bats are found that need protecting, the Forest
Service will close a mine using bars or dirt, always providing
egress for the bats.
Lookout Mountain has no bats, and no rattlers, but like other mines
dug between 50 and 150 years ago, it has a history. When a mine
is found, people like Mr. Robbins interested in the lore of the West
want to retrieve any unusual equipment for museums. The Vulcan
dynamite box is a it has stains on it that may be nitroglycerin. Nitro,
which doesn't, remains dangerously volatile even after many years.
The box stays put and the men keep moving, past graffiti from
1941 of a flower and a skull.
Several hundred feet along, amid old coffee cans and blasting-cap
boxes, the murky walls suddenly turn neon blue. Copper seepage,
says Mr. Robbins, a mine lover who spent many of his student
days at he Colorado School of Mines under the mountains, near
Aspen, while his friends were skiing. Mr. Knodel, a vigorous out-
doorsman who first learned how to handle explosives while
clearing land on an Oregon ranch, doesn't share Mr. Robbins's
enthusiasm for the mines, but he is warily curious. "What's that
black ooze coming out of the walls, Jim?" he asks.
"Black ooze," Mr. Robbins explains. The tunnel narrows to the
width of an simple coffin at the mine's end. To show how hard
navigation is even in this well defined space, they turn off their
head-lamps. The absence of light is a color beyond darkness.
Mr. Knodel breaks the silence with a rock tossed down a nearby
shaft. Fifteen seconds later, there is a splash. He heads back to
the mound of old explosive, eager to finish his work. "Man, I'd much
rather blow up a horse than be in a mine," he says.
As it happens, Mr. Knodel is also co-author of Agriculture
Department document 9523-2315-MTDC, "Obliterating Animal
Carcasses With Explosives." It recommends using up to 55 pounds
of water-gel explosive for an adult horse, after horseshoes have
removed to prevent dangerous debris. Charge placement is critical;
doubters may see Mr. Knodel's video of an unsuccessful whale
demolition, which wrecked a car and rained pungent hunks on
onlookers a quarter-mile away. "It's the kind of thing you want to
get right the first time," he says. "That way, there's just a little pink
haze to worry about."
At the nitro pile — a mix of wood, paper and dynamite in pink,
orange and gray—Mr. Knodel inventories the ground for blasting
caps, powder and any sticks of dynamite that rats may have
dragged from the main pile. "Very decomposed, very unstable," he
says, crouching 18 inches from the mound. Out in the open, he
says, detonating the explosives would make a crater 40 feet deep.
For a moment, he seems uncertain. "I can't guarantee the road on
top of this mine is going to be there when I'm done," he says.
Gingerly, he places four charges - festive-looking bright-red cones
- in the nitro heap. An intact dynamite box collapses under the
weight of one of the two-pound charges, and after some
consideration, he adds a fifth cone.
"Cheap insurance," Mr. Knodel says.
He rips a paper tag from a spool of shock tube, a flexible pipe
laced with gunpowder that serves as fuse, and pockets the tag so
as not to litter. Mr. Knodel backs out of the mine and takes position
on a hill beside the mine where a battery-powered igniter waits.
"We're ready to rock and roll," he says, pressing the button. "Fire
in the hole!"
The blast lights up the entrance to the mine. The explosion shakes
the mountain, and trees press upward, their roots tested. After a
moment's silence, the boom returns from across the valley, a
louder crack that echoes for several seconds. The Lookout
Mountain Mine has become a mess of rubble and noxious gas.
Birds begin to chatter madly.
Mr. Knodel won't know the full extent of his success for two weeks,
until the gas has dissipated and inspectors can take a close look.
But from just outside the mine, it appears to have been closed, the
mountain hasn't collapsed and Mr. Knodel is relieved to be back in
the great outdoors.
"Twenty-nine years, and every shot is different," he says.
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Its not my fight, but I'm obligated to ask.
Does somebody really reads all of those amusingly long, copy-pasted texts?
especially those that have almost zero useful or interesting information encompassed in them?
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I enjoy them 
If you give a man a match he will be warm for a moment. Set him alight and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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The WiZard is In
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Problem Definition Study on TAX (1-acetylhexahydro-3,5-dinitro-1,3,5- triazine), SEX
Accession Number : ADA099749
Title : Problem Definition Study on TAX (1-acetylhexahydro-3,5-dinitro-1,3,5- triazine), SEX (1-acetyloctahydro-3,5,7-trinitro-1,3,5,7-tetrazocine),
Lead Salicylate and Lead Beta-Resorcylate 2-Nitrodiphenylamine and Ethyl Centralite
Descriptive Note : Final rept. Nov 78-Jul 79 on Phase 2A
Corporate Author : ATLANTIC RESEARCH CORP ALEXANDRIA VA
Personal Author(s) : Wentsel, R. S. ; Fitzpatrick, W. H. ; Jones, W. E., III ; Wilkinson, M. J. ; Harward, W. E., III
Handle / proxy Url : http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA099749
Report Date : JUL 1979
Pagination or Media Count : 245
Abstract : The objective of this study was to evaluate the available information on the toxicological and environmental hazards associated with Army
munitions production. The chemicals included in this study were TAX, SEX, lead salicylate, lead B-resorcylate, 2-nitrodiphenylamine, ethyl centralite.
Recommendations for further studies to elucidate the environmental fate and toxicological properties of these compounds are made to fill the
information gaps identified in the literature review. (Author)
Descriptors : *TOXIC HAZARDS, *LEAD COMPOUNDS, *SALICYLATES, *TRIAZINES, *ETHYL CENTRALITE, *RESORCINOL, INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION, LITERATURE SURVEYS,
PROBLEM SOLVING, MUNITIONS INDUSTRY, INDUSTRIAL PLANTS, EXPOSURE(PHYSIOLOGY), ARMY PROCUREMENT, BIODETERIORATION, PHENYLAMINES.
Subject Categories : TOXICOLOGY
ORGANIC CHEMISTRY
AMMUNITION AND EXPLOSIVES
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Thank you for the reading material! TAX is extremely obscure on
line. I could only find one page listing it other than this post on the web crawlers.
http://idevtag.info/2011/3527316566-2-uwqp/
SEX has a few more listings online (insert joke here). It even seems that a suppler (sagechem) sells
1-acetyloctahydro-3,5,7-trinitro-1,3,5,7-tetrazocine. http://www.sagechem.com/productshow_19017.html
U.T.F.S.E. and learn the joys of autodidacticism!
Don't judge each day only by the harvest you reap, but also by the seeds you sow.
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AndersHoveland
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What is the advantage of substituting one of the nitro groups with an acetyl group?
(for those of you too lazy to do your own research, TAX and SEX are basically RDX and HMX aside from the substitution)
I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying lets remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.
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PHILOU Zrealone
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| Quote: Originally posted by AndersHoveland | What is the advantage of substituting one of the nitro groups with an acetyl group?
(for those of you too lazy to do your own research, TAX and SEX are basically RDX and HMX aside from the substitution) |
Reducing sensitivity with almost no loss of power?
Also those are byproducts from acetic anhydride/HNO3 processes to RDX and HMX...
Don J.H.-The WiZard is In,
How comes you know french?
Now and there you use familiar expressions, typical of a french speaking person/french educated person...
PH Z (PHILOU Zrealone)
"Physic is all what never works; Chemistry is all what stinks and explodes!"-"Life that deadly disease, sexually transmitted."(W.Allen)
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franklyn
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The only posts relevant to this thread began four posts ago when Wiz at last posted
the pertinent paper which should have been done from the start with some
explaination of it's merit which PHILOU Zrealone has just disclosed for general
enlightenment. Had Wiz done so I would not have misunderstood the silly name
abreviations to be the point of it , him being so fond of anecdotal trivia. I can't
apologize for losing my way if given incomplete directions.
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