mewrox99
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Chemicals in NZ. Not industrial qunatites
I'm looking for some reagents in NZ. All I can really find are industrial amounts of what I'm looking for.
25% NH3
70% HNO3
I want no more than 1L of each. Where should I go.
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hissingnoise
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Have you tried ebay.nz?
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ebay.co.nz is still a real website?
EDIT: No mewrox, I don't know. I've done a lot of searching for various chemicals and it seems to be more and more likely that the only places to
obtain such materials are through companies that require you to be an institute of some sort.
[Edited on 30-1-2011 by psychokinetic]
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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Go back to sleep, Hissingnoise - there is no ebay.nz 
You can buy 5 litre containers of nitric acid and ammonia on "Trade Me". That's probably the best you will do. Having said that, I bought 500 ml of
both nitric acid and ammonia on "Trade Me" a couple of years ago, from another seller. So keep checking back!
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Mewrox99
I have about 400ml of 70% HNO3. It was shipped to me in an HDPE container and I transfered it to a glass container when It got here, but I kept the
original container. When I do go off to college this is not one I can leave at home, or take with me for that matter, so whatever I have left,
probably 200-300ml, needs to find a good home. Now I would be happy to give this to you, but shipping is something I am afraid of. Im going to
assume shipping that is illegal and I would want nothing to do with the consequences of it leaking or getting found out. So what does everyone think,
is it worth it to just ship it? Or should I try to ship it legally (if possible) with a hazmat box?
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Magic Muzzlet
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Nitric acid, shipped legally or illegally, is one of THE last things I would want to ship overseas.
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hkparker
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That's what I figured, I don't want to get caught up in all that so yea. You can always make it, I did that for a while.
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mewrox99
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Yeah I was thinking about making it. Except to legally purchase a simple condenser in New Zealand, you need to fill out a form which asks what you are
using it for and ID that goes to the police. No thanks! And I doubt the cops will be impressed if I put down that I'll be using it to make RFNA
As for the shipping of the nitric acid overseas It's not possible because the shipping cost is obscene
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Yea I was going to say, its probably just as hard to get a condenser. Wish I could help you out, sorry
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Quote: Originally posted by mewrox99  | Yeah I was thinking about making it. Except to legally purchase a simple condenser in New Zealand, you need to fill out a form which asks what you are
using it for and ID that goes to the police. No thanks! And I doubt the cops will be impressed if I put down that I'll be using it to make RFNA
As for the shipping of the nitric acid overseas It's not possible because the shipping cost is obscene |
Isn't distilling liquor at home legal in your country. Just say you are practicing home brewing of spirits as your reason for buying the condenser.
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Very true.
New Zealand allows the running of a still of up to 3 litre capacity without a licence or duty payable as long as it is for private consumption.
So flask, still head, thermometer condenser, pig, etc all for making legal hooch.
Invite your best sheep to the barbie! 
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mewrox99
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Problem is I'm only 15 so I can't say I'm using it to distill EtOH
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rrkss
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Maybe your parents can help you get around that little problem?
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mewrox99
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It's too much effort. I'll just wait till later this year when I get to a distillation at school in chem class. I'm pretty sure it's an ester
distillation.
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Industrial suppliers are the solution to your problems. There's a lot of them who are more than happy to sell to an individual, too. A friend of mine
purchased quantities of 70% HNO3 in 30kg drums, for $25AUD a pop. It can be done.
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The title of this tread includes "not industrial quantities", so 30KG of HNO3 is not what he had in mind
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mewrox99
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I don't want an industrial quantity of anything dangerous like HNO3. 500mL of spillage is no-where near as bad as 10L+
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Guess what! I'm quite aware of the title, but it's honestly the most worthwhile way of doing it. Ordering them from lab suppliers is a good way to be
put under the radar, especially if you want to order other reagents from them ever again. I remember your messages about being interrogated for
purchasing beakers, so I don't know what makes you comfortable about this.
If you have the room to store it, I implore you to get an industrial quantity. If you're worrying about spillage, you're obviously approaching it in
an asinine manner. If you think you're going to be lifting 10L containers and pouring them into small beakers, you need to reevaluate your problem
solving skills. It goes without saying, do whatever you feel comfortable with. But, with chemicals slowly being restricted/regulated, a large quantity
is thinking ahead. A fellow NZ chemistry aficionado whom I'm friends with had much difficulty with ordering quantities of 1L of HNO3 in NZ without
arousing suspicion/getting put under the radar, but he went out and got a large drum without a problem.
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