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[*] posted on 18-1-2020 at 09:06
Ammonium Nitrate in Canada


This has been discussed before, but not directly related to Canada (at least I cannot find anything.)
Does anyone know of any OTC sources or, relatively, safe / inexpensive syntheses for Ammonium Nitrate?
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[*] posted on 18-1-2020 at 09:39


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
This has been discussed before, but not directly related to Canada (at least I cannot find anything.)
Does anyone know of any OTC sources or, relatively, safe / inexpensive syntheses for Ammonium Nitrate?
Much obliged


Maybe agricultural suppliers might be able to accommodate you?

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[*] posted on 18-1-2020 at 11:06


I am not in Canada, but some googling shows me your ACE hardware stores stock both ammonium sulfate and calcium nitrate. https://www.acehardware.com/departments/lawn-and-garden/gard...
I can't find ammonium nitrate in Australia so I make mine from two similar products. I make mine by combining dissolved solutions with a slight excess of calcium nitrate, then once filtered recrystallise it in water to remove impurities and wash with ethanol to remove excess calcium nitrate. I get a reasonable product from this process, but it is a lengthy one and the initial filtration to get rid of calcium sulphate is painful. Hope this helps.
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[*] posted on 18-1-2020 at 18:41


In my area, shoppers drug mart sells Calcium Ammonium Nitrate cold packs. But other than that, i have found nothing, and searched i have.

I got a small amount of Sodium Nitrate from work a few years back (aquaculture) and i've been using that ever since. I set up an ostwald reactor recently too, (lifesaver honestly) though I understand the irony of needing some starter nitric acid in order to make the catalyst.

Check garden stores, farm and feeds, if you know any farmers or people who might be able to buy some legitimately (or have some kicking around) start being nice to them. It is out there, searching around is my only suggestion.
If you don't mind sharing, whereabouts in Canada are you?




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[*] posted on 19-1-2020 at 12:14


Thanks for all the replies. I am located in the Waterloo region in southern Ontario (for those who asked.)
Also, I just realized that this thread probably should have been posted in apparatus and reagent acquisition, sorry.
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[*] posted on 19-1-2020 at 17:32


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
Thanks for all the replies. I am located in the Waterloo region in southern Ontario (for those who asked.)
Also, I just realized that this thread probably should have been posted in apparatus and reagent acquisition, sorry.


Don't worry too much about thread location... There's a lot of overlap with most topics. When in doubt, beginnings, and if there's a huge error the mods will move it




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[*] posted on 19-1-2020 at 18:06


WallMart equate cal Ammonium nitrate cold packs.

Dissolve in Ammonia water, filter out crap, then dry

I use those to make my Nitric acid (And gives you ammonium sulfate for an ammonia generator)

Or as a bursting charge too.
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if you find the ureia ,urea is very easy to attract nitrates, in my experiments, I choose a land that is a well-fertilized area, with a lot of vegetation, I chose the red soil because I know that there has iron and I know that the nitrogenase bacteria use the iron for this, then an incredible thing happens, after the urea dissolves in the water and I throw it in the land all the water is expelled upwards, when we throw ashes, a very strong ammonia smell appears, when heat it the nitrous oxide smells appears. thanks
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[*] posted on 20-1-2020 at 11:25


I have a bunch of ammonium nitrate extracted from cold packs. It isn't very clean fresh out of the cold pack, so a few recrystallizations took care of it. Only problem is it is super wet.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2020 at 18:48


Ammonium Nitrate is not something that will be available OTC in Canada at least. It is a highly regulated product that can only be sold to business providing an end use declaration and business license.

If you are looking for a supplier for any other chemicals please contact us at Alphachem. We are located in Mississauga and have a wide variety of products in many sizes. We do sell to the general public, however not Ammonium Nitrate
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[*] posted on 13-2-2020 at 18:44
Calcium Ammonium Nitrate(CAN)


B(a)P, I use the same method as you. The CAN is the double salt
decahydrate: 5Ca(NO3)2•NH4NO3•10H2O. The reaction:

5Ca(NO3)2•NH4NO3•10H2O + 5(NH4)2SO4 -->11NH4NO3 + 5CaSO4 + 10H2O

works very well with a maximum stoichiometric yield of 50.56%.

The problem is the thin paraffin coating on the CAN available in the
USA. I'm assuming this is for slow release in soil. I don't know if other
countries coat it. To get rid of this filter ice cold(< 1C) CAN/H2O solution
through paper towels then add the ammonium sulphate.

Then comes the pain in the ass calcium sulphate filtration.

Certainly both precipitates can be filtered at the same time but I don't
like filtering 2 compounds at once.

I use a ratio of 8:5, CAN/Ammonium sulfate, to ensure that the CAN
is used up.




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