aab18011
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Methods for Identifying Chemicals
Hi, I am new here and I am setting up my own personal lab. I have quite a lot of starting equipment that I have bought or received as a gift. However,
I plan on doing my own reactions and trying to modify syntheses, and some of my products come out so different that it is hard to determine what
chemicals I am making. I was wondering if there are some nice machines that can be used for this. I mean I don't want to spend 20,000$ on an NMR
machine, but I have heard from the grapevine that you can find one for cheap. For example, I was working with Tannic Acid in hopes of breaking off the
Gallic acid units with Sodium Metabisulfite. My problem is making sure that my products are what I predicted them to be.
I am the one who boils to dryness, fear me...
H He Li B C(12,14) Na S Cl Mn Fe Cu Zn Ba Ag Sn I U(238)
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Bmoore55
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I could analyze your samples for you. I have my own lab with and NMR, FTIR, and GCMS.
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aab18011
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I could analyze your samples for you. I have my own lab with and NMR, FTIR, and GCMS.
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I would be interested in that, but I'd need to check state laws for sending packages like that. My own school lab offers the service, but its
expensive even for faculty. Some charge like 200$ for a small batch of samples.
I am the one who boils to dryness, fear me...
H He Li B C(12,14) Na S Cl Mn Fe Cu Zn Ba Ag Sn I U(238)
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for amateur chemists analysing their compounds is the hardest part, you could use wet chemistry sometimes, but you can never be sure 100% to what you
have.
you could try with an used MS system, some of the members here have one, or multiple instruments, but still, complex molecules can be hard to
identify, expecially if you are dealing with a mixture.
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From: Bmoore55
I could analyze your samples for you. I have my own lab with and NMR, FTIR, and GCMS.
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I would be interested in that, but I'd need to check state laws for sending packages like that. My own school lab offers the service, but its
expensive even for faculty. Some charge like 200$ for a small batch of samples. |
Hello? State law does not cover US mail. Troll?
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aab18011
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From: Bmoore55
I could analyze your samples for you. I have my own lab with and NMR, FTIR, and GCMS.
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I would be interested in that, but I'd need to check state laws for sending packages like that. My own school lab offers the service, but its
expensive even for faculty. Some charge like 200$ for a small batch of samples. |
Hello? State law does not cover US mail. Troll? |
No no, I'm not troll. I am pretty serious about this too because I am trying to put together a research proposal and give it to my advisor, but I need
proof that my syntheses are correct. I was supposed to be working on a way to use indole as a carrier for various ligands our lab is interested in.
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for amateur chemists analysing their compounds is the hardest part, you could use wet chemistry sometimes, but you can never be sure 100% to what you
have.
you could try with an used MS system, some of the members here have one, or multiple instruments, but still, complex molecules can be hard to
identify, expecially if you are dealing with a mixture.
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Yeah, I was thinking about the wet chem identification, and I will be using some methods. I need to wait until I can acquire some more chemicals,
Sigma makes using dept. based discounts a nightmare.
I am the one who boils to dryness, fear me...
H He Li B C(12,14) Na S Cl Mn Fe Cu Zn Ba Ag Sn I U(238)
"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees" -Emiliano Zapata
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