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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 12:12
Price of amphetamine on black market.


I know that it is a forum not about drugs and generally topics like that are avoided, but the post doesn't show any cookery procedures. I'm just curious, because as I have recently written in another topic, that Poland is the biggest amphetamine producer in EU AFAIK. And indeed amphetamine is the cheapest drug there, in comparison with other drugs it is really cheap. And I just wonder if it is so in other countries. Is its price so low due to very low costs of production and simplicity or just it is the matter of availability.
If any moderator doesn't like this thread, it can be deleted, but I'm just curious.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 12:25


I don't know about the Polish law in relation to purchasing or synthesizing precursors or indeed amphetamines themselves, but my guess is that would have something to do with it. Access to and the price of chemicals in general in Poland generally seems much better than other countries, perhaps this is the same for precursors. Labor is also cheap in Poland. Maybe it is a combination of these factors.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 12:52


I've always been annoyed when LEOs quote "Street value" for drugs seized in this or that raid for precisely this reason. By definition, a black market is unregulated, there is no standard price.



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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 12:59


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
I've always been annoyed when LEOs quote "Street value" for drugs seized in this or that raid for precisely this reason. By definition, a black market is unregulated, there is no standard price.

Specified price doesn't matter to me at all. We all know that it changes and there is no standard price. I just ask if it is the cheapest drug in other countries too.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 13:13


Here in California, cannabis is the cheapest black market drug. However, its only illegal on a federal level so I wouldn't really count it.

Amphetamines are quite abundant usually in the form of Adderall. It's the 'productivity' drug so the tech industry is well known for using it. Also some students in university use it. I'd say maybe 10% of my peers in college have used it at least once for studying.

From my experience, amphetamines are generally the cheapest drug around.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 13:19


Here you have price stats of different drugs around europe over many years.

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/data/stats2019/

You can fill your curiosity about drug policies on this site.




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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 13:37


Quote: Originally posted by brubei  
Here you have price stats of different drugs around europe over many years.

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/data/stats2019/

You can fill your curiosity about drug policies on this site.

Thank you for the reference. It is very interesting albeit a little unclear, for me but for what I have read is that amphetamine isn't necessarily the cheapest one, but one of the cheapest and that Sweden has some dope quality amphetamine (in terms of maximal purity it oscillates from 98-100%.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 13:54


Quote: Originally posted by brubei  
Here you have price stats of different drugs around europe over many years.

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/data/stats2019/

You can fill your curiosity about drug policies on this site.


That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods.




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Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  


That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods.

I have read some article about this method and indeed it is really smart. But they also examine purity and potency of drugs which rather can't be done by examining metabolites.
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[*] posted on 10-6-2020 at 23:06


(Meth)Amphetamine is expensive here in NZ.....probably due to our strict laws (you would have to be crazy to try make it here, a guy got 28 years jail for meth related offences) and our island status as we dont join onto other countries like in Europe. Our customs have a great record of catching drug imports.
I get paranoid at times in case I end up with known precursors in my possession and dont realise.....so I read some drug chemistry stuff and then got paranoid because I had accessed this information! Can't win!
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[*] posted on 11-6-2020 at 00:48


Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods.
there are same publications with festival wastewater to monitor new emerging drugs

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[*] posted on 11-6-2020 at 00:51


nevermind

[Edited on 11-6-2020 by Tsjerk]
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[*] posted on 11-6-2020 at 03:28


Quote: Originally posted by brubei  
Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods.
there are same publications with festival wastewater to monitor new emerging drugs

[Edited on 11-6-2020 by brubei]


I first assumed they calculated the mg per 1000 pop by using the amount of waste water the average person produces but thinking about it they probably measure some other metabolite that is produced normally by people.




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[*] posted on 14-6-2020 at 07:34


About the wastewater, Ive heard of case that led criminal investigators to a drug lab when they followed the trail of wastewater lines emitting large traces of commonly known indicators. The investigation was triggered by the sewage facility when they noticed a significant peak in contaminants, police filed a case for environmental crime and further analysis revealed the probable cause.

Considering that this happened in a drain pool serving less than 100k ppl, the lab either had to dump some serious stuff down the drain, or they were measuring things to the PPT.
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[*] posted on 14-6-2020 at 10:01


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[*] posted on 19-6-2020 at 11:06


Recent article about wastewater analysis.

Probably need its own thread !

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