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Price of amphetamine on black market.
I know that it is a forum not about drugs and generally topics like that are avoided, but the post doesn't show any cookery procedures. I'm just
curious, because as I have recently written in another topic, that Poland is the biggest amphetamine producer in EU AFAIK. And indeed amphetamine is
the cheapest drug there, in comparison with other drugs it is really cheap. And I just wonder if it is so in other countries. Is its price so low due
to very low costs of production and simplicity or just it is the matter of availability.
If any moderator doesn't like this thread, it can be deleted, but I'm just curious.
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I don't know about the Polish law in relation to purchasing or synthesizing precursors or indeed amphetamines themselves, but my guess is that would
have something to do with it. Access to and the price of chemicals in general in Poland generally seems much better than other countries, perhaps this
is the same for precursors. Labor is also cheap in Poland. Maybe it is a combination of these factors.
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I've always been annoyed when LEOs quote "Street value" for drugs seized in this or that raid for precisely this reason. By definition, a black market
is unregulated, there is no standard price.
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Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  | I've always been annoyed when LEOs quote "Street value" for drugs seized in this or that raid for precisely this reason. By definition, a black market
is unregulated, there is no standard price. |
Specified price doesn't matter to me at all. We all know that it changes and there is no standard price. I just ask if it is the cheapest drug in
other countries too.
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Here in California, cannabis is the cheapest black market drug. However, its only illegal on a federal level so I wouldn't really count it.
Amphetamines are quite abundant usually in the form of Adderall. It's the 'productivity' drug so the tech industry is well known for using it. Also
some students in university use it. I'd say maybe 10% of my peers in college have used it at least once for studying.
From my experience, amphetamines are generally the cheapest drug around.
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Here you have price stats of different drugs around europe over many years.
https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/data/stats2019/
You can fill your curiosity about drug policies on this site.
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Thank you for the reference. It is very interesting albeit a little unclear, for me but for what I have read is that amphetamine isn't necessarily the
cheapest one, but one of the cheapest and that Sweden has some dope quality amphetamine (in terms of maximal purity it oscillates from 98-100%.
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That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure
drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods.
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Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  |
That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure
drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods. |
I have read some article about this method and indeed it is really smart. But they also examine purity and potency of drugs which rather can't be done
by examining metabolites.
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(Meth)Amphetamine is expensive here in NZ.....probably due to our strict laws (you would have to be crazy to try make it here, a guy got 28 years jail
for meth related offences) and our island status as we dont join onto other countries like in Europe. Our customs have a great record of catching drug
imports.
I get paranoid at times in case I end up with known precursors in my possession and dont realise.....so I read some drug chemistry stuff and then got
paranoid because I had accessed this information! Can't win!
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Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  | That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure
drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods. | there are same publications with
festival wastewater to monitor new emerging drugs
[Edited on 11-6-2020 by brubei]
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nevermind
[Edited on 11-6-2020 by Tsjerk]
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Quote: Originally posted by brubei  | Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  | That's fascinating they measure drug metabolites in waste water and convert the result to mg per 1000 of the population. A surprising way to measure
drug use and a testament to the sensitivity of modern detection methods. | there are same publications with
festival wastewater to monitor new emerging drugs
[Edited on 11-6-2020 by brubei] |
I first assumed they calculated the mg per 1000 pop by using the amount of waste water the average person produces but thinking about it they probably
measure some other metabolite that is produced normally by people.
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About the wastewater, Ive heard of case that led criminal investigators to a drug lab when they followed the trail of wastewater lines emitting large
traces of commonly known indicators. The investigation was triggered by the sewage facility when they noticed a significant peak in contaminants,
police filed a case for environmental crime and further analysis revealed the probable cause.
Considering that this happened in a drain pool serving less than 100k ppl, the lab either had to dump some serious stuff down the drain, or they were
measuring things to the PPT.
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Dallas, TX:
$300US/oz
fresh from Guadalajara and the CJNG
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Recent article about wastewater analysis.
Probably need its own thread !
Attachment: rice2020.pdf (1.4MB) This file has been downloaded 106 times
[Edited on 19-6-2020 by brubei]
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