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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 08:36
Is it too much to ask to wear a mask?


"Trump and his vice president flouted local mask rules, making it a point not to wear masks themselves in public appearances."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-americ...
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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 09:18


Yes, this is infuriating for me.

Furthermore the administration has interfered with MMWR, a weekly scientific report by the CDC. I used to trust it, but now I wonder how much is being manipulated.




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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 10:52


I have some authority issues, and even I don't freak out about being told to wear a mask.



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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 11:36


In california working in Chico, I wear one to drive to work. Smoke is giving us headaches often. My work is awesome about PPE in general, better with covid. Now we have even more reason to wear them with wildfires.

My boss set his air quality tester at my packing station and it was 120 inside the warehouse. I wear the mask as long as can be, occasionally taking it off for an unhindered breath. But I'm far enough away from everyone I'm not forced to wear them whole shift at all. You can visibly see other drives shake their heads when I'm I traffic, but I like breathing an not having a low grade headache 24-7

A gentle breeze yesterday had ash falling down the rain gutters like water would, lol
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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 12:34


The MMWR fiddling is concerning, but the one thing that can't be hidden is excess deaths.
Excess deaths are way over the 'offical' covid-19 death totals.
Some of that is due to people not getting adequate medical care and increased suicides, but I think
it is fair to attribute those to covid as well since those are happening because of covid.
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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 12:39


This is month old data and it was probably on the low side at the time due to reporting delays:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deat...
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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 14:00


There is some evidence emerging that masks are helping to convey immunity. By reducing the initial viral load the body has time to mount a defense before the virus becomes overwhelming, resulting in mild or even asymptomatic infection. We have already seen there is a strong correlation between high viral load and poor outcomes for this virus.

I dont see what the big deal is with wearing a mask - its just another piece of clothing, mandated for public health reasons. Its the same as having to wear pants/skirt or similar, but nobody complains about legally having to cover their genitals in public ...




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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 14:04


This mask controversy is just one more example of a broad and disturbing trend I have noticed in the west in general and America in particular, focusing on the "Rights" that don't really matter.
Both parties have their "Sacred cows", "Rights" they insist they can never give up. For the republicans, these include the "Rights" to be heavily armed and the "Right" not to be vaccinated. For the Democrats, its homosexual marriage and abortion.
I'm sure that for almost everyone here, at least one of these created strong feeling (I am no exception.) However, ultimately, these are, none of these, human rights. Because, as the two parties proclaim their support for these rights, they both decry certain aspects of the rights that truly matter, like freedom of speech and expression, of thought and religion, of assembly and association.
For the GOP, these include the desire for mandatory school prayer, as well as trump's disturbing disregard for the right to protest. For the Dems, these include "Hate speech" laws, as well as the strategy of "Deplatforming" openly advocated by academics and activists alike.
Masks are no different, not wearing a mask is a week and trivial statement in favour of a right whose existence is doubtful, and whose position in the hierarchy of rights which have been trampled by this and many previous administrations is very low indeed.

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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 19:44


Quote: Originally posted by Twospoons  
I dont see what the big deal is with wearing a mask - its just another piece of clothing, mandated for public health reasons. Its the same as having to wear pants/skirt or similar, but nobody complains about legally having to cover their genitals in public ...


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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 19:59


Quote: Originally posted by Cou  
I have some authority issues, and even I don't freak out about being told to wear a mask.


I have SEVERE authority issues, but also have no probs.

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[*] posted on 15-9-2020 at 23:41


I don't think highly of the authorities and am pleasantly surprised that they are now encouraging me to defeat their face recognition systems.
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 00:07


Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
I don't think highly of the authorities and am pleasantly surprised that they are now encouraging me to defeat their face recognition systems.


Doesn't it just mean they only need your iris for a positive ID by now? :D
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 01:30


From the article:
"Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly."

This is just sad. They are throwing away 175 years of consistency!
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 03:51


Quote: Originally posted by Heptylene  
From the article:
"Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly."

This is just sad. They are throwing away 175 years of consistency!

They have been pretty consistent. They try to encourage science, so this is consistent with their history.
Only problem is that they are about 4 years too late.
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 09:48


Quote: Originally posted by Heptylene  
From the article:
"Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly."

This is just sad. They are throwing away 175 years of consistency!

Agree completely.
As much as I despise mr. Trump, I just can't indorse a scientific magazine getting into politics.
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 10:48


I have a good doctor who wrote me a medical certificate and I don't need to wear any fucking mask ever now.
Screw their stupid muzzle laws.
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 11:09


Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
I don't think highly of the authorities and am pleasantly surprised that they are now encouraging me to defeat their face recognition systems.

my thoughts exactly




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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 12:39


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A dirty secret.
When you are an employee you usually have one boss.
When you own your own business you have all of your customers as bosses.
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[*] posted on 16-9-2020 at 12:57


Quote: Originally posted by Heptylene  
From the article:
"Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly."

This is just sad. They are throwing away 175 years of consistency!


I don't think there's anything sad about it. When one candidate is so staunchly anti-science and counter-factual, it would be hypocritical of them to pretend that they are above politics.

And yes, Morgan, for some shitwits, it is far too much to ask to wear a mask. You might be infringing upon their FREEEEDUMB!!!




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Quote: Originally posted by karlos³  
I have a good doctor who wrote me a medical certificate and I don't need to wear any fucking mask ever now.
Screw their stupid muzzle laws.

carl sir, please do not present yourself as a dumbass. I think you just did
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Quote: Originally posted by Tsjerk  
Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
I don't think highly of the authorities and am pleasantly surprised that they are now encouraging me to defeat their face recognition systems.


Doesn't it just mean they only need your iris for a positive ID by now? :D



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[*] posted on 17-9-2020 at 08:39


Quote: Originally posted by morganbw  
Quote: Originally posted by karlos³  
I have a good doctor who wrote me a medical certificate and I don't need to wear any fucking mask ever now.
Screw their stupid muzzle laws.

carl sir, please do not present yourself as a dumbass. I think you just did


Just wait, next he's gonna deny the Holocaust and claim that Merkel is a reptilian.
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[*] posted on 17-9-2020 at 09:32


Of course !
M marks the Reptilians !

Merkel, Melania, Michael Jackson, Mark Zuckerberg, Mike Pence, Manuel Noriega. Oh wait I'm mixing first and last names now.
I hope no one notices it before I come up with some bs to explain it.


Back to the original topic, I think most people here realize even toilet paper thin protection can be better than no protection at all. I dont know how long you guys think about the safety side of everything you do in the lab but for me it can be a good part while I chose a path, reagents etc.
So why not wear a mask ? I also notice the irony of defeating those new face recognition system our leaders think so highly of :)




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[*] posted on 17-9-2020 at 10:32


— Allegedly — face recognition has advanced beyond being stumped by masks. Gait recognition appears to be the new hot shit.

This is why Segways were BANNED by the NWO/Reptilians!!!1!1!
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[*] posted on 17-9-2020 at 14:06


Quote: Originally posted by stoichiometric_steve  
Quote: Originally posted by morganbw  
Quote: Originally posted by karlos³  
I have a good doctor who wrote me a medical certificate and I don't need to wear any fucking mask ever now.
Screw their stupid muzzle laws.

carl sir, please do not present yourself as a dumbass. I think you just did


Just wait, next he's gonna deny the Holocaust and claim that Merkel is a reptilian.


This can easily get out of hand.......




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