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[*] posted on 6-7-2021 at 07:32
New chemical restrictions in Canada?


https://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2021/2021-06-05/html/re...

According to this now acetone, hexamine, calcium ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder will be added to the explosive act as explosive precursors? While I don't think that hexamine fuel tablets or CAN cold packs will be going away, they might end up being harder and/or more annoying to get.

Any Canadian home/professional chemists got any comment on this? Cold packs are the only easy source of nitrates I know of, and acetone is great for cleaning all sorts of stuff and removing glue off surfaces. That is what I find really dumb. It's a basic solvent, and they are so terrified of some terrorist trying to make TATP that they want to monitor sales of the stuff? Most terrorists who try to make the stuff blow themselves up or lose their fingers. There is a reason why it's called the mother of Satan by the Palestinians. It isn't because of it's power. It's because of how dangerous it is to the user it is.

[Edited on 6-7-2021 by ManyInterests]

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[*] posted on 6-7-2021 at 11:17


Acetone was to be restricted when bought in bigger than something like 5L quantities. So buying 1L cans will not change. Your link states though that suspicious transactions should be reported, which is in line with the already existing precursors list that is like 60 years old.

I classify acetone as one of the most important solvents because of it's versatility for all purposes, and restricting it would basically change the basis of many things.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2021 at 14:47


I was looking for acetone in Walmart two nights ago and the shelves were empty so this post set my mind racing a little.
Picked up a,"US gallon," of it at Home Hardware this afternoon, though.
What the article says does seem to be in line with its status as a (former?) class B precursor, which reminds me I need to do up some ether to round out the collection.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2021 at 15:12


Quote: Originally posted by Fyndium  
Acetone was to be restricted when bought in bigger than something like 5L quantities.


Which would apply to those currently selling gallons?

IMHO all the restrictions everywhere are about chemical control in general, and whatever excuse is made is just the excuse that is made. Weird how every chemical that's banned for OTC purposes could be used for drugs in some way too. Note how Canada banned Br cpds. for hot tubs; maybe it's not a controlled substance, but it's now not OTC and no doubt Canadian children are much safer now from the menace of bromide disinfection and another tragic public health loophole in the regulations.




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[*] posted on 25-7-2022 at 10:27


Eumh another source of nitrate..its a lil bit expensive but its easy to get..Road flares,they are like 50%+ strontium nitrate..its easy to separate the SRN03 from all of the other stuff in it,but like i said..its pretty expensive for what it is..

Calcium ammonium nitrate is still available
5L+ container of acetone are still sold in pretty much all hardware stores
Hexamine is still "common"
And aluminium powder can be purchased online without trouble


[Edited on 25-7-2022 by Energetics-testin]




NCL3 is not that bad
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[*] posted on 26-7-2022 at 01:01


Quote: Originally posted by Energetics-testin  
Eumh another source of nitrate..its a lil bit expensive but its easy to get..Road flares,they are like 50%+ strontium nitrate..its easy to separate the SRN03 from all of the other stuff in it,but like i said..its pretty expensive for what it is..

Calcium ammonium nitrate is still available
5L+ container of acetone are still sold in pretty much all hardware stores
Hexamine is still "common"
And aluminium powder can be purchased online without trouble


[Edited on 25-7-2022 by Energetics-testin]


Totally off topic, but such restrictions open up a huge potential for illicit smuggling of reagents. Not so different than alcohol prohibition of the past or the drug prohibition of today.

I can quite literally obtain a 50 pound bag of fertilizer grade AN for a similar price if not less than a 5 pack of road flares here in the US. It must suck living in communist Canada.
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