Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Technical sodium molybdate
vano
National Hazard
****




Posts: 661
Registered: 22-3-2019
Location: Georgia
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 05:11
Technical sodium molybdate


Hello. Does anyone know what impurities are in technical sodium molybdate dihydrate and what is percentage of sodium molybdate.



View user's profile View All Posts By User
Bedlasky
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1219
Registered: 15-4-2019
Location: Period 5, group 6
Member Is Offline

Mood: Volatile

[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 09:58


If you have burette, you can estimate molybdate content by iodometry.



View user's profile View All Posts By User
vano
National Hazard
****




Posts: 661
Registered: 22-3-2019
Location: Georgia
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 10:42


Unfortunately I don't have



View user's profile View All Posts By User
unionised
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 5102
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: UK
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 11:31


What equipment do you have?
Do you have a good balance?
It might be possible to precipitate something like calcium molybdate and weigh that.

In any event, if you recrystalise the stuff, you will almost certainly get a higher purity product.

My best guess would be that the dominant impurities would be chromium and tungsten.


View user's profile View All Posts By User
Bedlasky
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1219
Registered: 15-4-2019
Location: Period 5, group 6
Member Is Offline

Mood: Volatile

[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 11:57


Molybdenum can be also estimated gravimetrically as 8-hydroxyquinolinate (if you have decent scales). Add 8-hydroxyquinoline slowly with constant stirring, both solutions (molybdate and 8-hydroxyquinoline) must be dilute (to avoid error by occlusion).

http://chemistry.uohyd.ac.in/~mvr/ch306/oxine.pdf

More about gravimetry here:

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Analytical_Chemistry...

Edit: Impurities like Cr, W can precipitate alongside Mo. I read about method to precipitate Mo as MoS3 and then ignite it at certain temperature to obtain MoO3. Mo can be seperated from W if you follow procedure. But this determination is really laborious and you need good temperature control during igniting MoS3, because if temperature is too high, you lost some MoO3 by sublimation.

https://sci-hub.se/https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ja01...

Anyway I don't think that your sodium molybdate have much impurities. It is used in agriculture, so I don't expect high concentrations of other metals.

[Edited on 6-8-2021 by Bedlasky]




View user's profile View All Posts By User
vano
National Hazard
****




Posts: 661
Registered: 22-3-2019
Location: Georgia
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 6-8-2021 at 20:36


Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky  
Molybdenum can be also estimated gravimetrically as 8-hydroxyquinolinate (if you have decent scales). Add 8-hydroxyquinoline slowly with constant stirring, both solutions (molybdate and 8-hydroxyquinoline) must be dilute (to avoid error by occlusion).

http://chemistry.uohyd.ac.in/~mvr/ch306/oxine.pdf

More about gravimetry here:

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Analytical_Chemistry...

Edit: Impurities like Cr, W can precipitate alongside Mo. I read about method to precipitate Mo as MoS3 and then ignite it at certain temperature to obtain MoO3. Mo can be seperated from W if you follow procedure. But this determination is really laborious and you need good temperature control during igniting MoS3, because if temperature is too high, you lost some MoO3 by sublimation.

https://sci-hub.se/https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ja01...

Anyway I don't think that your sodium molybdate have much impurities. It is used in agriculture, so I don't expect high concentrations of other metals.

[Edited on 6-8-2021 by Bedlasky]


Thank you Bedlasky!




View user's profile View All Posts By User
maldi-tof
Harmless
*




Posts: 36
Registered: 3-4-2019
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 16-8-2021 at 01:21


Typical impurities for sodium molybdate are arsenic and potassium.
You can "check" at least if it is the 2-hydrate carrying out a loss on drying test at 140°C (it should be between 14.0-16.0% per Eu. Ph.).
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Bedlasky
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1219
Registered: 15-4-2019
Location: Period 5, group 6
Member Is Offline

Mood: Volatile

[*] posted on 16-8-2021 at 01:37


Arsenic? Are you sure? I doubt that someone add something that contain arsenic in to the soil.



View user's profile View All Posts By User
maldi-tof
Harmless
*




Posts: 36
Registered: 3-4-2019
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 16-8-2021 at 03:26


One source that we have for sodium molybdate 2-hydrate has 0.01% of arsenic (100 ppm).
If it is a "natural" product, it is not strange that some sources of molybdenum that have not been treated or purified contain arsenic as impurity.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top