alchemizt
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Testing for alkaloids in unknown plants
I'm trying to come up with a way to rapidly screen/test for the presence if alkalods in various plants with unknown phytochemical compositions. I have
dragendorffs reagent and marquis reagent for spot tests and TLC. What I'm wondering is how to prepare the plants for these tests. A soxhlet extraction
takes too much time for screening plants like this. How would you go about testing a range of unknown plants for alkaloids like this?
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Quote: Originally posted by alchemizt  | | I'm trying to come up with a way to rapidly screen/test for the presence if alkaloids in various plants with unknown phytochemical compositions. I
have dragendorffs reagent and marquis reagent for spot tests and TLC. What I'm wondering is how to prepare the plants for these tests. A soxhlet
extraction takes too much time for screening plants like this. How would you go about testing a range of unknown plants for alkaloids like this?
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I would think you would need to concentrate and purify an extract from your plants. Can you try your TLC plates with a crude extract (presumably very
dilute and contaminated by lots of non-alkaloids) from a plant that you know contains an alkaloid to see if your reagents work under those
conditions.
I am sorry I don't know which suitable extraction solvent could be used. It probably depends on which alkaloid your try to detect.
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The classic answer is to grind the plant with water and bicarbonate of soda (to convert any alkaloids to the free base) extract them with chloroform-
which will dissolve alkaloids. Any fat or oil will also dissolve in the organic phase.
Then take the chloroform and shake it with dilute acid, so that any alkaloid is now in solution as the salt in the water layer. The oils will remain
in the chloroform and can be discarded (for recycling by distillation).
Finally add bicarbonate to that again and extract into chloroform again.
That will mean all the alkaloids are in the chloroform solution (but without any fats / oils this time) ready for spotting onto a TLC plate.
A hundred years ago, anything that didn't make it through that process wouldn't have been called an alkaloid.
On the other hand, it will exclude some interesting materials like N oxides.
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Dragenrorff reagent doesn't work for all alkaloids. Just some of them.
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