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Fulmen
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From what I have read it is Russia that's holding back:
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-gazprom-decl...
But either way I say good riddance. I'll rather freeze than fund Russia's war effort with a single cent. Because this won't end until Russia is
defeated. Russia might be the largest country in Europe, but EU outnumber them 3 to 1. And economically it's better than 10 to 1 (they are barely
larger than Spain).
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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Bedlasky
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I rather live another day to fight back, than freeze and starve to death.
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Fulmen
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I'll admit I'm somewhat privileged, we have a heat pump, subsidized power, 2m^3 of wood and an oil furnace. And I'm not really eligible for military
service. So it's easy to volunteer for a fight you don't have to fight yourself. But I'd rather face problems head on than hoping it will sort itself
out. And this level of aggression has no limits, if there's one thing history has taught us it's that simple fact.
If there is one virtue to hard times it's that it teaches us what is really important. So fuck the environment, the only order of business is to
survive. Always has been, always will be. Short terms first, long terms last. And this won't change anything. Russia was burning more gas than anybody
long before this, this isn't the battle that determines the fate of the planet. But if this forces Germany into reversing it's view on nuclear power
it will be a huge win for the climate.
Has anybody calculated the CO2 footprint of war? And not just the insane energy used in the weapons and machines, think of all the destroyed
infrastructure that has to be replaced...
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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Bedlasky
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I didn't mean acutal fight on battlefield, I meant that if we cripple ourselves by stop buying Russian gas without replacement, how can we face them?
With destroyed economy and divided society we are pretty easy target. But if we firstly find a new source of gas (in the same quantity), and then we
stop buying Russian gas, we remain strong. Yeah, we will some time fund their war, but it's better than commiting suicide. As you said - its all about
survival.
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Twospoons
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Not buying Russian gas is fighting back.
Helicopter: "helico" -> spiral, "pter" -> with wings
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MadHatter
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Putin
Putin has cutoff gas going into Europe. His goal is to force these consumer
nations to lift the sanctions that were put in place after his invasion of Ukraine.
From opening of NCIS New Orleans - It goes a BOOM ! BOOM ! BOOM ! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
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Fulmen
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It's as simple as that. He's pushing, and we're trying to push back. And I think we should.
Russia might be the biggest country in Europe, but economically they are comparable to Spain. We can starve them out, I wouldn't be surprised if this
breaks the Russian Federation in the long run.
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
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