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[*] posted on 5-9-2022 at 08:02
Don't ballmill magnesium.


I've been ball milling magnesium to a 200 mesh powder without issue, i'm using a rubber container and ceramic media. However last week I opened the container and tried to see if it was fine enough for my mesh. It wasn't quite ready so I poured it back in and started it milling again.

I don't know quite know how it happened but about 2-3 minutes later it detonated and blew the end off my mill container, filled the area with thick smoke and started a small fire! Everything turned out ok and the fire went out with some water.

I think the lesson is that magnesium powder is hazardous and ball milling it is likely to result in an incident eventually.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2022 at 09:51


You should use some mineral oil when milling it. This is already adviced when milling aluminium, but with magnesium it is even more important.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2022 at 12:02


Good advice however I suppose it adds a solvent step to remove the oil afterwards, also I expect the lubrication slows down to milling?
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[*] posted on 5-9-2022 at 13:52


Both true, but at least your ballmill won't explode and start a fire.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2022 at 23:29


Water might not be my first choice for possibly burning Magnesium.



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[*] posted on 6-9-2022 at 03:34


Quote: Originally posted by arkoma  
Water might not be my first choice for possibly burning Magnesium.

I second this!!!

Even a class 'ABC' extinguisher can add fuel to a magnesium fire, and many other combustible metals. If I remember correctly a class 'D' is used.
Table salt is another good option but be prepared for the possibility of chlorine gas.
Acid-washed sand and time are good methods to deal with most metal fires

I once got the idea to use an inert atmosphere of "party balloon helium" just to find out that it was roughly 40% He and 60% air. After the fire, I had some nice green rocks in my mill.

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[*] posted on 6-9-2022 at 13:47


On the one hand, magnesium can form a nitride so finely divided magnesium could potentially still have issues in N2. On the other hand, it's nowhere near as prone to forming the nitride as lithium is: Case in point - Grignards are routinely run under nitrogen.



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[*] posted on 7-9-2022 at 10:42


The explosive properties of magnesium are well documented.
At least you didn't have it fine enough to get a UV flash burn from the explosion.

I always open the container and let it sit for bit every 8 hours or so.
If your ball mill is more aggressive I would suggest a more frequent cycle.
This give the exposed fresh surfaces a chance to oxidize in a more controlled manner.

Some good charcoal (1%) is also useful in coating the surface and won't interfere with most pyrotechnic uses like a solvent might. After all your mix is probably going to contain charcoal anyway.

For a grignard you probably don't want the powder that fine. It will make generating the reagent too energetic. Of course grignards are finicky and you may know the material you are working with better than we would.
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