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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 08:58
For those in the UK: kiss goodbye to N2O


UK: "Nitrous oxide to be banned to clamp down on antisocial behavior":

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/122er45/nitr...
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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 12:20


Quote: Originally posted by HydrogenSulphate  
UK: "Nitrous oxide to be banned to clamp down on antisocial behavior":

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/122er45/nitr...


Interersting. Corroboration needed. :cool:




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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 12:39


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/26/laughing-gas...
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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 13:23


It was on the BBC 10 o'clock news, just now... :o:mad:



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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 14:48


What is antisocial about NO2?
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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 15:09


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
What is antisocial about NO2?


I don't think the kids are getting high on NO2 :D
That would come to a very abrupt end.

In all seriousness though, as I understand it the issue is inhalation of N2O from the likes of whipped cream canisters to get a temporary high.
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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 18:32


"temporary" is a key word here.
It lasts longer and is a lot more fun in a hospital setting even with a broken wrist :D

It's sad for the people making hybrid rockets though.




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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 03:54


It's another piece of political theater in perfidious Albion.

Part of the complaint is the littering of these small alu N2O capsules. But these are already covered by existing littering laws!

As usual the supine 'Labour' party is following suit. We have no meaningful opposition here on Airstrip One. :mad::mad::o

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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 04:13


N2O oxidizes cobalt in vitamine B12 rendering it inactive, thereby causing neuropathy after excessive use.

[Edited on 27-3-2023 by Tsjerk]
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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 04:15


Quote: Originally posted by B(a)P  
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/26/laughing-gas...


from the article:

[...]because of the behaviour of thugs and yobs, they feel they can’t walk at night, women and girls in particular, in public spaces because of intimidatory behaviour. We do need to deal with that.”
[...]

Are there no laws against that kind of behavior? What is with the rape drug #1, Ethanol?
At least GB is no more in the EU...so there are good chances, that this law change is GB only....but who knows.

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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 05:05


Apparently dumping sewage in the rivers isn't antisocial enough to warrant action.

It's the usual "we need to be seen to do something".
Nitrous oxide has gained in popularity since the government brought in really badly designed anti-drug legislation.
They carefully added a clause to their "all encompassing" law which excluded medical drugs.

They didn't realise what that mean.
It's popular because the Tories decriminalised it by accident.
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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 10:21


Quote: Originally posted by unionised  
Apparently dumping sewage in the rivers isn't antisocial enough to warrant action.

It's the usual "we need to be seen to do something".


Hear, hear!




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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 14:34


I'm still trying to figure out you can be (anti)social under the influence of nitrous. Now where is my hydroxylamine and sodium nitrite at?




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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 15:39


Canisters? More like amateurs. Back in the day there were gangs with tanks and balloons outside nightclubs in Fort Lauderdale. Not that I had any experience with that :D



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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 16:09
Maryland


My previous state of residence. N2O is outlawed for using in power boosting
on cars. $500 fine if you're caught using it.




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[*] posted on 28-3-2023 at 13:09


I can already see the Daily Mail headlines:

"Air To Be Banned Amid Nitrous Oxide Synthesis Fears"

"Drug Fiend Loses Arm In Fertilizer Explosion: Nitrous Oxide Synthesis Goes Awry"

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[*] posted on 29-3-2023 at 04:24


Quote: Originally posted by SplendidAcylation  
I can already see the Daily Mail headlines:

"Air To Be Banned Amid Nitrous Oxide Synthesis Fears"

"Drug Fiend Loses Arm In Fertilizer Explosion: Nitrous Oxide Synthesis Goes Awry"


The Daily Fail would shout about "chemicals" and get the formulae wrong.
I suspect "Nitirc oxide" might make it into their headlines.

The fact is that alcohol has a bigger effect on society, but it's sold by big rich companies and a lot of tax revenue is raised on it.
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[*] posted on 29-3-2023 at 07:32


Quote: Originally posted by unionised  


The fact is that alcohol has a bigger effect on society, but it's sold by big rich companies and a lot of tax revenue is raised on it.


I call it The Daily Hate Mail.

Alcohol? Think tobacco: 1 in 2 users die of related diseases.




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[*] posted on 8-8-2023 at 09:35


This is bad for hobbyists and I don't agree with the reason for the ban, but it is good news for the climate if it doesn't get used as much.
I calculated it once and IIRC 1 capsule of 8g N2O has the global warming potential of 1L of gasoline.
I'll take 15 km of transport over a 1 minute high.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2024 at 15:48


right now we are nearly in half of the 2024 and i still can see cartonboards with empty tubes after n2o. So banned or not?



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[*] posted on 4-5-2024 at 17:43


The classic barking dog chemistry demonstration comes to mind. Also some other old news.

"One victim told RTL radio in 2013: “I had six broken ribs and my sternum was broken. At the hospital, I was told that if the shock and blast had been in front of the heart, I would be dead by now.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/22/french-fitness...



[Edited on 5-5-2024 by Morgan]
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